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Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 09:30:26 -0400
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
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Question: Is a formal vote necessary to start this process or is our 
informal consensus enough?

-> richard

On 5/28/10 1:40, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> It seems there is a consensus to move Karaf as a TLP, at least amongst
> people involved in Karaf (the other felix committers haven't really
> expressed any opinion).
>
> I think the next steps would be to draft a proposed resolution to the board,
> which would include:
>    * the project goal
>    * the project PMC (including the chair)
>
> In order to create an open community from the start, I'd like to invite
> anyone with an Apache account willing to contribute to Karaf to raise hands
> so that we can build this list.  I don't think opening it wider for now
> would be wise, but I do thing we should have a very low entry bar for
> committership (but that can be discussed later).
>
> I'll try to come up with a proposal for Karaf's project goal asap, but
> anyone is welcome to give it a try and propose some wording.
>
> FWIW, it would like the following, we just need to fill the XXXX:
>
>         WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>         interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>         Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>         Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>         open-source software related to a machine learning platform
>         for distribution at no charge to the public.
>
>         NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>         Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project",
>         be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>         Foundation; and be it further
>
>         RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is
>         responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>         related to XXXXXXX; and be it further
>
>         RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be
>         and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>         serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>         of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility
>         for management of the projects within the scope of
>         responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further
>
>         RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>         hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>         Apache Karaf Project:
>
>           * xxx<xxx@apache.org>>
>           * ...
>
>         NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that XXXXX
>         be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to
>         serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>         Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>         death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>         or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
>         RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is
>         tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>         encourage open development and increased participation in the
>         Apache Mahout Project; and be it further
>
>         RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby
>         is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>         Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further
>
>         RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>         Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the
>         Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged.
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet<gnodet@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>    
>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago.
>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as
>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that none
>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf.  I
>> really
>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the same
>> (not sure
>> where they actually diverge though).
>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being part
>> of Felix, so
>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Guillaume Nodet
>> ------------------------
>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>> ------------------------
>> Open Source SOA
>> http://fusesource.com
>>
>>
>>
>>      
>
>