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From "Jamie G." <jamie.goody...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Move Karaf as a TLP
Date Mon, 31 May 2010 13:59:35 GMT
This sounds good to me too. It encompasses all the functions that the
Karaf project will be continuing and/or expanding to do as a TLP.

Jamie

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Guillaume Nodet <gnodet@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 11:14, Gert Vanthienen <gert.vanthienen@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> L.S.,
>>
>> Adding my (late) +1 for moving Karaf to a TLP
>>
>> Not sure if you're still looking for someone to take an initial stab
>> at the project goal or if that's being discussed on the Felix PMC at
>> the moment, but here's my proposal anyway:
>>  "... for the creation and maintenance of
>>  a small, extensible and enterprise-ready OSGi-based server runtime,
>>  capable of being a base framework for building other enterprise
>> server applications,
>>  as well as the necessary tools, add-ons and components to facilitate
>> building these applications"
>>
>
> Well, it actually looks perfect to me :-)
> Let's see what other people think about it.
>
>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Gert Vanthienen
>>
>>
>>
>> On 30 May 2010 22:53, Lukasz Dywicki <lukasz@dywicki.pl> wrote:
>> >
>> > I would like to say 'yes' for TLP (even if my vote doesn't count).
>> >
>> > I try contribute Karaf from time to time and I wish continue doing that,
>> > when it will move to top level too.
>> >
>> > For me it does not make sense to try close all OSGi releated things in
>> Felix
>> > project. At this moment we have Aries which is also very closer to OSGi
>> but
>> > it's not a part of Felix.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Lukasz Dywicki
>> >
>> >
>> > Jarek Gawor-2 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I would like to be involved with this TLP as well.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Jarek
>> >>
>> >> On Friday, May 28, 2010, Guillaume Nodet <gnodet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> It seems there is a consensus to move Karaf as a TLP, at least amongst
>> >>> people involved in Karaf (the other felix committers haven't really
>> >>> expressed any opinion).
>> >>>
>> >>> I think the next steps would be to draft a proposed resolution to the
>> >>> board,
>> >>> which would include:
>> >>>   * the project goal
>> >>>   * the project PMC (including the chair)
>> >>>
>> >>> In order to create an open community from the start, I'd like to invite
>> >>> anyone with an Apache account willing to contribute to Karaf to raise
>> >>> hands
>> >>> so that we can build this list.  I don't think opening it wider for
now
>> >>> would be wise, but I do thing we should have a very low entry bar for
>> >>> committership (but that can be discussed later).
>> >>>
>> >>> I'll try to come up with a proposal for Karaf's project goal asap, but
>> >>> anyone is welcome to give it a try and propose some wording.
>> >>>
>> >>> FWIW, it would like the following, we just need to fill the XXXX:
>> >>>
>> >>>        WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>> >>>        interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>> >>>        Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>> >>>        Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>> >>>        open-source software related to a machine learning platform
>> >>>        for distribution at no charge to the public.
>> >>>
>> >>>        NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>> >>>        Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project",
>> >>>        be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>> >>>        Foundation; and be it further
>> >>>
>> >>>        RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is
>> >>>        responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
>> >>>        related to XXXXXXX; and be it further
>> >>>
>> >>>        RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf"
be
>> >>>        and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>> >>>        serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>> >>>        of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility
>> >>>        for management of the projects within the scope of
>> >>>        responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further
>> >>>
>> >>>        RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>> >>>        hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>> >>>        Apache Karaf Project:
>> >>>
>> >>>          * xxx <xxx@apache.org>>
>> >>>          * ...
>> >>>
>> >>>        NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that XXXXX
>> >>>        be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf,
to
>> >>>        serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of
the
>> >>>        Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
>> >>>        death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
>> >>>        or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
>> >>>
>> >>>        RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby
is
>> >>>        tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>> >>>        encourage open development and increased participation in
the
>> >>>        Apache Mahout Project; and be it further
>> >>>
>> >>>        RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby
>> >>>        is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>> >>>        Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further
>> >>>
>> >>>        RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>> >>>        Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the
>> >>>        Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet <gnodet@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago.
>> >>>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community
as
>> >>>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks
that
>> >>>> none
>> >>>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf.
 I
>> >>>> really
>> >>>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not
the
>> same
>> >>>> (not sure
>> >>>> where they actually diverge though).
>> >>>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being
>> >>>> part
>> >>>> of Felix, so
>> >>>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Cheers,
>> >>>> Guillaume Nodet
>> >>>> ------------------------
>> >>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>> >>>> ------------------------
>> >>>> Open Source SOA
>> >>>> http://fusesource.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>> Guillaume Nodet
>> >>> ------------------------
>> >>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>> >>> ------------------------
>> >>> Open Source SOA
>> >>> http://fusesource.com
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > --
>> > View this message in context:
>> http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Move-Karaf-as-a-TLP-tp28557580p28724755.html
>> > Sent from the Apache Felix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
>

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