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From "Stuart McCulloch" <stuart.mccull...@jayway.net>
Subject Re: Plugins and wrappers (Was: Re: Felix Coding Style)
Date Fri, 21 Sep 2007 03:30:01 GMT
On 21/09/2007, Richard S. Hall <heavy@ungoverned.org> wrote:
> Marcel Offermans wrote:
> > On Sep 20, 2007, at 21:37 , Richard S. Hall wrote:
> >
> >
> >> For me, I am not so sure about this one. I am not sure if makes
> >> sense, for example, for us to donate the bundle plugin to Maven,
> >> since the area of expertise around OSGi is in Felix, so if people
> >> have questions about stuff they will likely want answers from us, not
> >> from Maven guys. However, if Maven started to become much more
> >> OSGi-centered, then my position on this could change.
> >
> >> From my point of view, it makes sense that we (i.e., Felix community)
> >> develop tools that make it easier for people to use Felix (e.g.,
> >> bundleplugin). The fact that bundleplugin uses Maven is just an
> >> implementation issue. For example, mangen does a similar job as
> >> bundleplugin, but it is not based on maven, so what would we do with
> >> that? Of course, we wouldn't do anything with it. The point is that
> >> we are making tools to help people use Felix and these tools should
> >> be part of the Felix project, no matter what technology they are
> >> implemented on top of.
> >
> > That's another way to look at things. Another approach could be to not
> > only donate the code to other projects, but (as a figure of speech)
> > donate the developer(s) too and have them maintain the code in another
> > project.
> To me, this would just dilute the expertise in the Felix community and
> would require that users know where to ask their OSGi questions, rather
> than just coming to Felix for all of their OSGi questions.

another benefit of keeping such tools/plugins at Felix is that people may
drop by looking for a plugin and find out about the framework - if all the
tools were on other sites they could end up sticking with Equinox ;)

> Then again, it also depends on the scope of the Felix project. Do we
> > only implement the core framework? Or core plus compendium? Or that
> > plus other useful bundles? Or even including development utilities and
> > plugins? A lot of what we do is not bound to the framework anyway, but
> > can be used in any OSGi framework.
> Well, I am pretty sure the proposal said that we will try to do the
> entire spec (core + compendium), plus try to advance OSGi technology
> with our own ideas and projects too. So, the scope is actually quite
> large. :-)
> -> richard
> >
> > Greetings, Marcel
> >

Cheers, Stuart

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