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From "Stephen McConnell" <mcconn...@apache.org>
Subject RE: Avalon - moving away from ?
Date Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:25:35 GMT


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Karasulu [mailto:aok123@bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 16:03
> To: James Developers List
> Cc: dev@excalibur.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Avalon - moving away from ?
> 
> On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 09:27, Paul Hammant wrote:
> > This is an enabler, not migration. We're facilitating alternate
> > deployment capabilities, not closing off current ones.
> 
> This makes so much sense for projects like Eve which attempt to enable
> integration with everything under the sun.  As you know we have these
> POJO's and separate wrappers for Avalon and eventually other IoC
> frameworks.  This will even enable us to integrate into Geronimo perhaps
> with GBean wrappers but I was told I may not need them since the POJO's
> might be usable directly.
> 
> > As it would happen, I think the starting point is Cornerstone rather
> > than James. Again as an enabler.
> 
> Oh good thing you mentioned this.  Cornerstone is the missing link for
> me in the POJO'ification process.  Obviously I depend on it and use it
> with Avalon deployment.  However it would be nice to just have POJO
> versions of the Cornerstone components.  This way they're as common as
> using jakarta-commons classes without being tied to any component
> framework.  Cornerstone I think would be used much more readily if this
> were the case.
> 
> However I do have this one question which I should know but just in case
> perhaps someone can clarify it.  Aren't the classes within the excalibur
> libraries used to build the Cornerstone components the POJO's we're
> looking for?

Yes.  The cornerstone components (in most cases) handle the adaptation
between the Phoenix/Merlin component model and the Excalibur utilities. In a
couple of cases the cornerstone components are not dependent on Excalibur
(store and sockets).

Steve.


> Alex
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