Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-excalibur-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 99769 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2004 07:17:30 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 23 Jun 2004 07:17:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 52341 invoked by uid 500); 23 Jun 2004 07:17:52 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-excalibur-dev-archive@excalibur.apache.org Received: (qmail 52195 invoked by uid 500); 23 Jun 2004 07:17:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@excalibur.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: List-Id: "Excalibur Developers List" Reply-To: "Excalibur Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@excalibur.apache.org Received: (qmail 52070 invoked by uid 99); 23 Jun 2004 07:17:45 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from [212.8.217.2] (HELO mail.s-und-n.de) (212.8.217.2) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.27.1) with ESMTP; Wed, 23 Jun 2004 00:17:44 -0700 Received: from notes.sundn.de (ntsrv5.sundn.de [10.10.2.10]) by mail.s-und-n.de (postfix) with ESMTP id 6A71B19F59F for ; Wed, 23 Jun 2004 09:17:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hw0386 ([192.168.2.31]) by notes.sundn.de (Lotus Domino Release 6.5) with ESMTP id 2004062309072329-2811 ; Wed, 23 Jun 2004 09:07:23 +0200 From: "Carsten Ziegeler" To: "'Excalibur Developers List'" Subject: RE: i18n Deprecation Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 09:16:25 +0200 Organization: S&N AG MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <40D8B67C.8020807@realityforge.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Thread-Index: AcRYrL4WCTXD9+wiQVCnCEHck7+CjwARQetg X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on PBSN1/Systeme und Netzwerke(Release 6.5|September 26, 2003) at 23.06.2004 09:07:30, Serialize by Router on PBSN1/Systeme und Netzwerke(Release 6.5|September 26, 2003) at 23.06.2004 09:07:30, Serialize complete at 23.06.2004 09:07:30 Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N I'm not against it - the only thing that bites me a little bit is that (if I'm not mistaken) Fortress currently requires i18n, so the changes you propose would require that Fortress depends on salt. In general I have nothing against such dependencies but I would like to have as few external dependencies for Fortress as possible. So perhaps we should consider removing the dependency to i18n from Fortress first? Carsten > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Donald [mailto:peter@realityforge.org] > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 12:45 AM > To: Excalibur Developers List > Subject: Re: i18n Deprecation > > Yay/Nay? > > Peter Donald wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The next step in deprecation I would like to do is i18n. I > would like > > to see this nuked from excalibur in the long term. It would be > > replaced with spice-salt which is almost identical functionality. > > (http://spice.codehaus.org/salt) > > > > Spice-salt differs from excalibur-i18n in that salt binds > resources to > > ClassLoader of associated class rather than in a static map. This > > means that application servers like Loom dont have to worry about > > different classes with the same name corrupting each other. Things > > also get a lot easier in Servlet environments if salt is in > a common classloader. > > Except in those scenarios there should be no changes for users. > > > > The steps I would follow are; > > > > * Bump version of i18n project > > * Deprecate i18n source code > > * Release new version of i18n with deprecation warnings > > * Update all existing users of excalibur-i18n to use spice-salt > > * Add subversion tag (Pre-i18n-Delete) > > * svn rm i18n > > * Document deprecation and where to migrate to (spice-salt) > > > > Any thoughts and/or objections? > > > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > > > Peter Donald > > "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - > Napoleon > > Bonaparte (1769-1821) > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@excalibur.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > dev-help@excalibur.apache.org Apache > > Excalibur Project -- URL: http://excalibur.apache.org/ > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@excalibur.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > dev-help@excalibur.apache.org Apache Excalibur Project -- > URL: http://excalibur.apache.org/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@excalibur.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@excalibur.apache.org Apache Excalibur Project -- URL: http://excalibur.apache.org/