Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-excalibur-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 69620 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2004 01:25:37 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 26 Jun 2004 01:25:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 61870 invoked by uid 500); 26 Jun 2004 01:25:45 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-excalibur-dev-archive@excalibur.apache.org Received: (qmail 61760 invoked by uid 500); 26 Jun 2004 01:25:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@excalibur.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: List-Id: "Excalibur Developers List" Reply-To: "Excalibur Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@excalibur.apache.org Received: (qmail 61153 invoked by uid 99); 26 Jun 2004 01:25:35 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from [200.221.11.55] (HELO smtp.uol.com.br) (200.221.11.55) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.27.1) with ESMTP; Fri, 25 Jun 2004 18:25:31 -0700 Received: from keldorfortress (200-98-22-37.tlf.dialuol.com.br [200.98.22.37]) by scorpion2.uol.com.br (Postfix) with SMTP id 67CBC8CA1 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2004 22:24:58 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: <004f01c45b1c$67eb1cd0$251662c8@keldorfortress> From: "hammett" To: "Excalibur Developers List" References: <07258F4244D6F649B1A78993D070B7CA01EDA3C9@ACSPMXE02> <40DC7D01.6030504@jicarilla.org> Subject: Re: [RT] About proxies and pooling Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 22:25:01 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leo Simons" > Any container will do reflection, which is some kind of "magic" as well. > IMHO no container can do without proxying/wrapper generation, etc. > Container development is all about dealing with "magic", and making sure > most developers don't have to. I disagree. Eventually the developer needs to debug code. Debugging with proxies is really pain in the ass. If the container is too magical it can turns developer's life in a living hell and proxing is just one of its faces. But we can have different opinions as well :-) Cheers, hammett --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@excalibur.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@excalibur.apache.org Apache Excalibur Project -- URL: http://excalibur.apache.org/