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From Leo Simons <lsim...@jicarilla.org>
Subject Re: [proposal] procedures and policies
Date Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:56:50 GMT
I'm just putting a big "accepted" on this proposal. If anyone wants to 
bother, feel free to bring things up again.

- LSD

Leo Simons wrote:
> Hi gang!
> 
> We do need /some/ procedures and policies I'm afraid. For example, the 
> PMC must endorse (by voting) all project releases. Coding standards are 
> another one of those.
> 
> I don't feel very much like re-inventing the wheel or spending much time 
> on all of this. I propose that we incorporate the procedures followed by 
> avalon, by reference, in particular, that's
> 
>   http://avalon.apache.org/community/process/pmc-votes.html
>   http://avalon.apache.org/community/process/code-standards.html
>   http://wiki.apache.org/avalon/AvalonMailingListEttiquette
>   http://wiki.apache.org/avalon/AvalonDistributionLayout
>   http://wiki.apache.org/avalon/AvalonReleaseManagerHowto
> 
> to the maximum extent possible (ie the actual distribution layout is of 
> course different). We can change things as they itch. Where bits of 
> procedure and policy are not specified by avalon docs, refer to the 
> process as written down on the jakarta site:
> 
>   http://jakarta.apache.org/site/getinvolved.html
> 
> those of you who've been active on the avalon pmc should have no 
> problems applying all of this. Those of you who are new to the role, you 
> really don't need to go and read all of that right now. Just go with the 
> flow and ask questions. The basic summary is as follows:
> 
>  * don't smack each other on the head (or not too hard), behave like a
>    responsible adult, use common sense, etc
>  * +1/+/-0/-1 mean what you expect of 'em
>  * releases are a big deal and need to be voted on
>  * ASF is strict about licensing/IP/etc stuff and there's rules to
>    follow and people to speak to (like the apache incubator)
>  * a -1 is a veto unless specified otherwise or the vote is among the
>    PMC (the PMC doesn't have vetoes)
>  * vetoes suck and arise from a failure to communicate
>  * by ASF bylaws, the PMC chair (currently that's me) is always right,
>    if he/she wants to be, and can overrule or simply ignore any decision
>    made by the committers or pmc
>  * basically more common sense stuff
> 
> I also recommend people who go and read the above docs to also take a 
> look at the codehaus manifesto, which is brief and blunt:
> 
>   http://www.codehaus.org/Manifesto
> 
> not that it applies here (this is not the codehaus after all), but it 
> does provide some contrast with the "ASF process" as hammered down in 
> all the policy documentation.
> 
> Finally, everyone who's an asf committer, esp. pmc members, needs to be 
> familiar with the ASF bylaws:
> 
>   http://www.apache.org/foundation/bylaws.html
> 
> this is a binding legal document (unlike all the other stuff referenced 
> above). We shall adhere to it.
> 
> comments?
> 
> cheers,
> 
> - Leo

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