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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:11:36 +0400
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Subject: Re: 1.4 planning
From: Vladimir Ivanov <lester.mail@gmail.com>
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Hi Jack,

Ok, I take your point. Thanks for the explanations.

Vladimir

2011/9/13 Jack Park <jackpark@topicquests.org>

> Hi Vladimir,
>
> I am using Indrajit's scala library, not in ESME, but in another project
> project that is a precursor to features I want to later add to ESME.
>
> I am not able to say with any certainty that Lift's Record API doesn't fit
> well; I started to think about it by sketching two implementations, one for
> documents (ESME nodes, pure get/put key-value pairs where the value is a
> JSON representation of the node) and one for timelines (the Redis List
> structure), then decided, perhaps if for no other reason than gross
> simplicity, to go with simply using the Redis API directly.  I'll offer this
> hunch: Record extensions can, and perhaps should be implemented for ESME
> nodes and for timelines.  For now, I'm not going that direction but don't
> rule it out in the future.
>
> I, too, am looking forward to seeing the results ;-)
>
> Jack
>
>
> On 9/13/2011 9:28 AM, Vladimir Ivanov wrote:
>
>> Hi Jack!
>>
>> Your thoughts regarding Redis integration seem very interesting.
>> Unfortunately I haven't had time to look closer into it. As I understood
>> from your comment - Lift's Record API doesn't fit well with Redis? Are you
>> going to use indrajitr's scala library for Redis?
>>
>> I'm looking forward to see the results!
>>
>> Vladimir
>>
>>
>> 2011/9/6 Jack Park<jackpark@topicquests.org>
>>
>>  At the moment, I'm not sure about creating a Jira for it, but I am
>>> working
>>> on it.  I started with https://github.com/indrajitr/****scala-redis<https://github.com/indrajitr/**scala-redis>
>>> <https://github.**com/indrajitr/scala-redis<https://github.com/indrajitr/scala-redis>
>>> >
>>>
>>> and, thanks to conversations with Indrajit, have learned that I can craft
>>> what I call RedisModel (an object) that holds a live instance of
>>> RedisClient
>>> and presents a useful API for doing timelines and nodes. I'm working on
>>> that
>>> now.  RedisClient must be configured in Boot.scala
>>>
>>> When I get something that works, I'll toss it up to github and ask others
>>> to polish the work of this scala beginner.
>>>
>>> My present thinking is that user modeling is still handled in an RDBMS
>>> (though, I suppose, even there it's possible to run into scaling
>>> problems)
>>>
>>> Jack
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/2/2011 10:25 AM, Ethan Jewett wrote:
>>>
>>>  That's a good point. Nothing with that level of scale is currently in
>>>> the realm of possibility for our use-cases, but as machine-generated
>>>> data becomes more prevalent it is going to become more of a problem.
>>>>
>>>> Want to create a Jira for it and assign it to the backlog? If you have
>>>> some ideas about how this should be done or want to work on a
>>>> prototype, go for it :-)
>>>>
>>>> Ethan
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Jack Park<jackpark@topicquests.org>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  The interesting question for me is: how many records can you store in
>>>>> an
>>>>> RDBMS before you have to think about scale up issues? I wrote a trivial
>>>>> microblog in Java using Redis; I think there is a candidate fit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Jack
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/1/2011 11:53 PM, Ethan Jewett wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's certainly an interesting idea, and Lift does have some built-in
>>>>>> capabilities here in the form of the Record module. It would be a
>>>>>> pretty significant migration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An interesting question to explore: Would this give us a performance
>>>>>> boost in some scenarios?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Jack Park<jackpark@topicquests.org>
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Somewhat beyond 1.4, I'd like to ask about persistence other than
>>>>>>> RDBMS.
>>>>>>> For
>>>>>>> instance, in microblogging, there is some evidence that Redis can
>>>>>>> provide
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> scalable datastore.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Jack
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/29/2011 11:27 PM, Richard Hirsch wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've been thinking about the next release and wanted to start
>>>>>>>> collecting ideas for features for this release.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are some tasks in Jira [1] but that list isn't complete:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here are some other ideas:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Integration with Akka / Apache Camel
>>>>>>>> * Simplification of URLs
>>>>>>>> * Change Web UI to deal with new icon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any one else have other ideas / suggestions?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> D.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/****jira/secure/IssueNavigator.**<https://issues.apache.org/**jira/secure/IssueNavigator.**>
>>>>>>>> jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=****project+%3D+ESME+AND+**
>>>>>>>> fixVersion+%3D+%221.4%22+AND+****status+%3D+Open+ORDER+BY+**
>>>>>>>> priority+DESC&mode=hide<https:**//issues.apache.org/jira/**
>>>>>>>> secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?**reset=true&jqlQuery=project+%**
>>>>>>>> 3D+ESME+AND+fixVersion+%3D+%**221.4%22+AND+status+%3D+Open+**
>>>>>>>> ORDER+BY+priority+DESC&mode=**hide<https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=project+%3D+ESME+AND+fixVersion+%3D+%221.4%22+AND+status+%3D+Open+ORDER+BY+priority+DESC&mode=hide>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>>


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