Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-esme-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: (qmail 12800 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2010 09:39:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 5 Nov 2010 09:39:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 40201 invoked by uid 500); 5 Nov 2010 09:39:41 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-esme-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 40135 invoked by uid 500); 5 Nov 2010 09:39:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact esme-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 40127 invoked by uid 99); 5 Nov 2010 09:39:39 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:39:39 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=4.7 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,FREEMAIL_REPLY,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of esjewett@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.216.47] (HELO mail-qw0-f47.google.com) (209.85.216.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:39:32 +0000 Received: by qwd6 with SMTP id 6so2223878qwd.6 for ; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 02:39:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sy9L6R1Se8juxpHh8w76FBZ6BNKeZsSMJXABrLn9VqQ=; b=RhlsyrY70R2yqHcRtao1QagQrw/hyEtr844T4cUbvNYLvLwEq+LlCh3HLrA2bhXzhe E/0jytv5caIlSquK3Kj99BxJF/EK9OG5lN18FMqKVf8kUAxiNnQVfGfOgVZkBCWX5/qP pE6trAB1mXrBO9iwEVHKlGBtZ5NLoXxFUjHLY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=A+6K++5HAPnDUzTX5+ik+mkssO1brwd7vnykURjYI8BOlBRhXs7jWaU35q+shSzW1B jgLmyGY0koTWBUoKAHnj7Tot2+a+ouaX3rnOfjnqBNo2fyssB4i75Z3DsWSEx87apE9U byAlXH6SU/57MUorTqRmD8m959tFvtylTLgyI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.182.5 with SMTP id ca5mr1775572qcb.150.1288949949568; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 02:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.188.75 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Nov 2010 02:39:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20101103190122.24CDA238890D@eris.apache.org> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 10:39:09 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r1030614 - in /incubator/esme/trunk/server/src/main/webapp: images/bg-update-bot.png images/bg-update-mid.png images/bg-update-top.png style/style.css templates-hidden/message.html templates-hidden/message_update_box.html From: Ethan Jewett To: esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630f475e0965b04944b0b98 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --00163630f475e0965b04944b0b98 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Me too. I've created a Jira - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ESME-302 I'm not going to be able to implement this until this evening at the earliest, but probably later, so if anyone has more ideas, keep them coming. Either here or on the Jira issue. Ethan On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Richard Hirsch wrote: > On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Ethan Jewett wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Richard Hirsch >wrote: > >> > >> > >> But don't you think moving the update box to the main template would > >> eat up space? > >> > > > > Yes, exactly. This is why I'm proposing changing the form-factor of the > > update box when we do this, or going with something different entirely, > like > > you talk about below. > > > > > >> I'd like more of an inline update box like that from twitter rather > >> than from seesmic web. > >> > > > > I think there is definitely an argument to be made here. Now that the > > templates have been refactored, it would not be difficult to put the > update > > box inline on the tag and conversation pages. So maybe that is a good > first > > step? > > > > The question is - does the behavior change on those pages, because if it > is > > inline I think users will expect to automatically post with a tag or in a > > conversation, depending on the context. If we do something more like > > Streamie or Seesmic (where the update box is clearly part of the header > and > > not the timeline), then it is clear that the update box always works the > > same no matter where you are, and if you want to use a tag or do a reply > > then it is up to you (the user) to do that. > > Like the idea of adding tags automatically or automatically adding the > message to conversation. > > > > > > >> > > >> > 1. Have something like Twitter.com's new interface where there is > always > >> a > >> > small text box displayed and clicking on it expands to a full > >> message-input > >> > interface. > >> > > >> > 2. Have something like streamie.org's interface where the > message-input > >> area > >> > slides down from the header upon request (thought I think if we do > this > >> we > >> > should make it more "in your face" than Streamie's implementation). > >> > >> Could we "borrow" that CSS code from streamie? > >> > > > > Streamie is under a BSD license, so I think the answer is yes, though we > > might have to put something in our NOTICE file. Not sure. > > > > If we decide to go the Streamie route (slide out update box), then I > think > > it will be easier to redo it ourselves. We can use the Streamie CSS and > > Javascript as an example, but I think in the end we'll want to use JQuery > > animations because they work cross-browser. I'm not sure what Ube used in > > Streamie. > > > > Ethan > > > --00163630f475e0965b04944b0b98--