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From "Imtiaz Ahmed H E" <>
Subject Re: Is doing PubSubHubub worth it ?
Date Sat, 04 Sep 2010 08:49:36 GMT
I think I'll just go ahead and do it and the rest of you can review my 
completed stuff and it's working in the svn pubsubhubub-2 branch and decide 
whether to go ahead and integrate with trunk or not.

I'll try to deliver quickly now!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ethan Jewett" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: Is doing PubSubHubub worth it ?

> It's a good question - perfectly reasonable. As Dick mentioned, I
> don't think that list is complete, but it's true that not everybody
> has implemented PuSH.
> In my mind, Pubsubhubbub is a nice-to-have at this point. It's
> definitely not one of the highest priority items. It's something that
> I was interested in implementing as an experiment and it would
> immediately deliver some additional nice functionality in the form of
> instantly updating actions and less server time spent downloading RSS
> feeds every X minutes.
> Longer-term, there are more interesting implications if we get
> PuSH-enabled, authenticated feeds of ESME user timelines (with ESME as
> a publisher and hub). Once this happens, it is another good way to
> integrate ESME with other systems on a user-by-user basis. Eventually
> it might be a way to federate ESME instances, but there are a lot of
> complications that are not easily resolved, including what is done
> about pools in this scenario and how authentication works (PuSH
> authentication is not a very well-resolved problem).
> So, that's just my partially-formed thinking on the topic. It was
> pretty much a science-project for me that didn't get very far. I
> definitely think of it as a nice-to-have rather than a "must-have".
> Ethan
> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Richard Hirsch <> 
> wrote:
>> There are some other companies not on the list but present in the
>> comments (RabbitMQ and - there are also some interesting
>> other possibilities (for example, linking it to xmpp (
>> or
>> this blog about pubsubhubbub and twitter
>> (
>> Since we've already started the implementation, I'd really be
>> interested in continuing it but I'm open for discussions on the topic
>> as well.
>> D.
>> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Imtiaz Ahmed H E <> 
>> wrote:
>>> Please don't misconstrue me, I would have (and already started having) 
>>> my usual ball doing it!
>>> But at
>>> there are only a handful of companies who have advertised themselves as 
>>> doing (supporting a hub for their feeds) it.
>>> Of course, Ethan probably knows better...
>>> What do you think ? Dick ?
>>> Maybe there's lots of other stuff that would really help Esme. But, 
>>> pubsubhubub is a really worthwhile api/concept in itself...
>>> Imtiaz

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