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From Richard Hirsch <hirsch.d...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Is doing PubSubHubub worth it ?
Date Sat, 04 Sep 2010 10:32:05 GMT
Do we want to create another JIRA issue for Pubsubhubbub publishing?
Don't know whether it would be 1.2 though:

D.

On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Imtiaz Ahmed H E <in.imtiaz@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think I'll just go ahead and do it and the rest of you can review my
> completed stuff and it's working in the svn pubsubhubub-2 branch and decide
> whether to go ahead and integrate with trunk or not.
>
> I'll try to deliver quickly now!
>
> Imtiaz
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ethan Jewett" <esjewett@gmail.com>
> To: <esme-dev@incubator.apache.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 1:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Is doing PubSubHubub worth it ?
>
>
>> It's a good question - perfectly reasonable. As Dick mentioned, I
>> don't think that list is complete, but it's true that not everybody
>> has implemented PuSH.
>>
>> In my mind, Pubsubhubbub is a nice-to-have at this point. It's
>> definitely not one of the highest priority items. It's something that
>> I was interested in implementing as an experiment and it would
>> immediately deliver some additional nice functionality in the form of
>> instantly updating actions and less server time spent downloading RSS
>> feeds every X minutes.
>>
>> Longer-term, there are more interesting implications if we get
>> PuSH-enabled, authenticated feeds of ESME user timelines (with ESME as
>> a publisher and hub). Once this happens, it is another good way to
>> integrate ESME with other systems on a user-by-user basis. Eventually
>> it might be a way to federate ESME instances, but there are a lot of
>> complications that are not easily resolved, including what is done
>> about pools in this scenario and how authentication works (PuSH
>> authentication is not a very well-resolved problem).
>>
>> So, that's just my partially-formed thinking on the topic. It was
>> pretty much a science-project for me that didn't get very far. I
>> definitely think of it as a nice-to-have rather than a "must-have".
>>
>> Ethan
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Richard Hirsch <hirsch.dick@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> There are some other companies not on the list but present in the
>>> comments (RabbitMQ and status.net) - there are also some interesting
>>> other possibilities (for example, linking it to xmpp (
>>> http://grack.com/blog/2009/09/09/pubsubhubbub-to-xmpp-gateway/) or
>>> this blog about pubsubhubbub and twitter
>>> (http://blog.persistent.info/2009/08/twitter-pubsubhubbub-bridge.html)
>>> Since we've already started the implementation, I'd really be
>>> interested in continuing it but I'm open for discussions on the topic
>>> as well.
>>>
>>> D.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Imtiaz Ahmed H E <in.imtiaz@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Please don't misconstrue me, I would have (and already started having)
>>>> my usual ball doing it!
>>>>
>>>> But at http://code.google.com/p/pubsubhubbub/wiki/Companies
>>>> there are only a handful of companies who have advertised themselves as
>>>> doing (supporting a hub for their feeds) it.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, Ethan probably knows better...
>>>>
>>>> What do you think ? Dick ?
>>>>
>>>> Maybe there's lots of other stuff that would really help Esme. But,
>>>> pubsubhubub is a really worthwhile api/concept in itself...
>>>>
>>>> Imtiaz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>

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