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From "Imtiaz Ahmed H E" <in.imt...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Is doing PubSubHubub worth it ?
Date Sun, 05 Sep 2010 05:37:35 GMT
Ethan,

Could you create the Jira item for authenticated RSS feeds with suifficient 
detail and let us know when you are done. I'm curious...

Imtiaz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ethan Jewett" <esjewett@gmail.com>
To: <esme-dev@incubator.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: Is doing PubSubHubub worth it ?


>I think we just need the authenticated RSS feeds first. Another issue
> dependent on the RSS feed issue would make sense. I'll try to remember
> to do it when I get home.
>
> Agreed on it being in the Backlog, not 1.2.
>
> Ethan
>
> On Saturday, September 4, 2010, Richard Hirsch <hirsch.dick@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> Do we want to create another JIRA issue for Pubsubhubbub publishing?
>> Don't know whether it would be 1.2 though:
>>
>> D.
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Imtiaz Ahmed H E <in.imtiaz@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> I think I'll just go ahead and do it and the rest of you can review my
>>> completed stuff and it's working in the svn pubsubhubub-2 branch and 
>>> decide
>>> whether to go ahead and integrate with trunk or not.
>>>
>>> I'll try to deliver quickly now!
>>>
>>> Imtiaz
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ethan Jewett" <esjewett@gmail.com>
>>> To: <esme-dev@incubator.apache.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 1:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Is doing PubSubHubub worth it ?
>>>
>>>
>>>> It's a good question - perfectly reasonable. As Dick mentioned, I
>>>> don't think that list is complete, but it's true that not everybody
>>>> has implemented PuSH.
>>>>
>>>> In my mind, Pubsubhubbub is a nice-to-have at this point. It's
>>>> definitely not one of the highest priority items. It's something that
>>>> I was interested in implementing as an experiment and it would
>>>> immediately deliver some additional nice functionality in the form of
>>>> instantly updating actions and less server time spent downloading RSS
>>>> feeds every X minutes.
>>>>
>>>> Longer-term, there are more interesting implications if we get
>>>> PuSH-enabled, authenticated feeds of ESME user timelines (with ESME as
>>>> a publisher and hub). Once this happens, it is another good way to
>>>> integrate ESME with other systems on a user-by-user basis. Eventually
>>>> it might be a way to federate ESME instances, but there are a lot of
>>>> complications that are not easily resolved, including what is done
>>>> about pools in this scenario and how authentication works (PuSH
>>>> authentication is not a very well-resolved problem).
>>>>
>>>> So, that's just my partially-formed thinking on the topic. It was
>>>> pretty much a science-project for me that didn't get very far. I
>>>> definitely think of it as a nice-to-have rather than a "must-have".
>>>>
>>>> Ethan
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Richard Hirsch <hirsch.dick@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> There are some other companies not on the list but present in the
>>>>> comments (RabbitMQ and status.net) - there are also some interesting
>>>>> other possibilities (for example, linking it to xmpp (
>>>>> http://grack.com/blog/2009/09/09/pubsubhubbub-to-xmpp-gateway/) or
>>>>> this blog about pubsubhubbub and twitter
>>>>> (http://blog.persistent.info/2009/08/twitter-pubsubhubbub-bridge.html)
>>>>> Since we've already started the implementation, I'd really be
>>>>> interested in continuing it but I'm open for discussions on the topic
>>>>> as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> D.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Imtiaz Ahmed H E <in.imtiaz@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please don't misconstrue me, I would have (and already started 
>>>>>> having)
>>>>>> my usual ball doing it!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But at http://code.google.com/p/pubsubhubbub/wiki/Companies
>>>>>> there are only a handful of companies who have advertised themselves

>>>>>> as
>>>>>> doing (supporting a hub for their feeds) it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, Ethan probably knows better...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think ? Dick ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe there's lots of other stuff that would really help Esme. But,
>>>>>> pubsubhubub is a really worthwhile api/concept in itself...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Imtiaz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> 


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