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From Richard Hirsch <hirsch.d...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Text wrapping in timeline and popular message/links (ESME-112 and ESME-186)
Date Sat, 03 Apr 2010 06:33:15 GMT
Have you tried it on perf stax instance?

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yojibee@gmail.com>wrote:

> I wanted to test in IE7, but I cannot sign up for a new account on my
> machine (localhost:8080).
> Is the signup page broken or is it only me?
>
> /Anne
>
>
> On 2. apr. 2010, at 08.27, Richard Hirsch wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the UI-related work. It is great that others are doing UI work
> as
> > well.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I'm on vacation and can't do a stax deployment until
> Tuesday.
> > :-<
> >
> > D.
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Ethan Jewett <esjewett@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I just checked in word-wrap based fixes for both the timeline and the
> >> popular messages/links. Word on the street is that this actually
> >> should work in IE as well. Can someone build trunk and test, at least
> >> on IE7? Any really long link with only normal characters in it (not -)
> >> should trigger the issue.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Ethan
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
> >> <yojibee@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> OK, so we need to find a way to deal with text wrapping.
> >>> We should probably decide which browsers to support in release 1.1 and
> >> take it from there.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 28. mars 2010, at 19.22, Ethan Jewett wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Yup, understood re. big companies still using IE6. I was just
> >>>> wondering if any of our specific users (Siemens, at least) still
> >>>> consider it supported internally. If not, then it might make sense to
> >>>> consider not supporting it if it is a lot of extra work.
> >>>>
> >>>> On the messages front, it's just messages with long links, or other
> >>>> long unbroken text strings that suffer the wrapping problem.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ethan
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
> >>>> <yojibee@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Is the wrapping problem for messages for all messages or just those
> >> containing long links?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The problem is that many big companies still use IE6 and won't care
> >> about end-of-life dates.
> >>>>> @Dick: IE6 support is still important for Siemens right?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 28. mars 2010, at 16.28, Ethan Jewett wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Sounds like a good approach to me, but keep in mind that we
still
> have
> >>>>>> the wrapping problem for messages themselves.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What is the situation with IE6 support at places that have this
> >>>>>> deployed currently? I'm thinking since IE6 and most IE7 versions
> >>>>>> end-of-life is July 13th, those working on the UI might not
want to
> >>>>>> put too much effort into it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ethan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
> >>>>>> <yojibee@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> I am just afraid that text wrapping is something which will
take a
> >> significant amount of time to get right.
> >>>>>>> Remember we have support the following browsers:
> >>>>>>> IE6
> >>>>>>> IE7
> >>>>>>> IE8
> >>>>>>> Safari
> >>>>>>> Firefox
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think we should put it in the backlog for now and remove
these
> >> features from the UI for the 1.1 release.
> >>>>>>> What say you?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 27. mars 2010, at 15.42, Ethan Jewett wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Whoops! I just created ESME-186 and attached it there:
> >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ESME-186
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Ethan
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Richard Hirsch <
> >> hirsch.dick@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Ethan Jewett <
> esjewett@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Richard Hirsch
<
> >> hirsch.dick@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> What I'd like to do is use JQuery tool tips
to display the
> help.
> >> I just
> >>>>>>>>>>> finished converting the action page and
just deleted the help.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> That sounds just about perfect!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Good luck.  Do you have suggestion of how
to display a long
> url?
> >> Maybe
> >>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>> a mouse-over that displays the fulltext.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I think for starters we could drop the # of
clicks and get away
> >> from a
> >>>>>>>>>> table-based model to a list-based model in the
html. That helps
> >>>>>>>>>> compact things a bit and gives us more ability
to use CSS for
> >> managing
> >>>>>>>>>> text display. The next step is to force wrapping,
which to the
> >> best of
> >>>>>>>>>> my knowledge is not really possible in CSS2.
Fortunately CSS3
> has
> >> the
> >>>>>>>>>> "word-wrap:break-word" style, which does exactly
what we want.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I've attached a mock-up done using CSS3 using
this approach.
> What
> >> do you
> >>>>>>>>>> think?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Email it to me directly, since the esme-dev mailing
deamon
> usually
> >> kills
> >>>>>>>>> attachments.
> >>>>>>>>> Or attach it to JIRA-100 item.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> As a last resort, if we can't find a way to
extend this to
> >> non-CSS3
> >>>>>>>>>> browsers, we could probably do some fancy JS
or something to
> >> insert
> >>>>>>>>>> spaces into the text representation of the link,
allowing it to
> >> wrap.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> What about creating dialogs but not modal
dialogs.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I think modal dialogs and normal dialogs suffer
from the same
> >>>>>>>>>> disadvantages in this situation.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Ethan
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>

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