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From Richard Hirsch <hirsch.d...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Text wrapping in timeline and popular message/links (ESME-112 and ESME-186)
Date Sat, 03 Apr 2010 13:30:23 GMT
The code drop from Monday. What sort of error do you get? Does it work on
FF?

On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yojibee@gmail.com>wrote:

> It works on the perf stax instance.
> Which revision is deployed there?
>
> On 3. apr. 2010, at 08.33, Richard Hirsch wrote:
>
> > Have you tried it on perf stax instance?
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe <
> yojibee@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> I wanted to test in IE7, but I cannot sign up for a new account on my
> >> machine (localhost:8080).
> >> Is the signup page broken or is it only me?
> >>
> >> /Anne
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2. apr. 2010, at 08.27, Richard Hirsch wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks for the UI-related work. It is great that others are doing UI
> work
> >> as
> >>> well.
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately, I'm on vacation and can't do a stax deployment until
> >> Tuesday.
> >>> :-<
> >>>
> >>> D.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Ethan Jewett <esjewett@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I just checked in word-wrap based fixes for both the timeline and the
> >>>> popular messages/links. Word on the street is that this actually
> >>>> should work in IE as well. Can someone build trunk and test, at least
> >>>> on IE7? Any really long link with only normal characters in it (not
-)
> >>>> should trigger the issue.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Ethan
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
> >>>> <yojibee@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> OK, so we need to find a way to deal with text wrapping.
> >>>>> We should probably decide which browsers to support in release 1.1
> and
> >>>> take it from there.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 28. mars 2010, at 19.22, Ethan Jewett wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Yup, understood re. big companies still using IE6. I was just
> >>>>>> wondering if any of our specific users (Siemens, at least) still
> >>>>>> consider it supported internally. If not, then it might make
sense
> to
> >>>>>> consider not supporting it if it is a lot of extra work.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On the messages front, it's just messages with long links, or
other
> >>>>>> long unbroken text strings that suffer the wrapping problem.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ethan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
> >>>>>> <yojibee@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Is the wrapping problem for messages for all messages or
just those
> >>>> containing long links?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The problem is that many big companies still use IE6 and
won't care
> >>>> about end-of-life dates.
> >>>>>>> @Dick: IE6 support is still important for Siemens right?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 28. mars 2010, at 16.28, Ethan Jewett wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sounds like a good approach to me, but keep in mind
that we still
> >> have
> >>>>>>>> the wrapping problem for messages themselves.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> What is the situation with IE6 support at places that
have this
> >>>>>>>> deployed currently? I'm thinking since IE6 and most
IE7 versions
> >>>>>>>> end-of-life is July 13th, those working on the UI might
not want
> to
> >>>>>>>> put too much effort into it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Ethan
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
> >>>>>>>> <yojibee@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> I am just afraid that text wrapping is something
which will take
> a
> >>>> significant amount of time to get right.
> >>>>>>>>> Remember we have support the following browsers:
> >>>>>>>>> IE6
> >>>>>>>>> IE7
> >>>>>>>>> IE8
> >>>>>>>>> Safari
> >>>>>>>>> Firefox
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I think we should put it in the backlog for now
and remove these
> >>>> features from the UI for the 1.1 release.
> >>>>>>>>> What say you?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 27. mars 2010, at 15.42, Ethan Jewett wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Whoops! I just created ESME-186 and attached
it there:
> >>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ESME-186
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Ethan
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Richard Hirsch
<
> >>>> hirsch.dick@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Ethan Jewett
<
> >> esjewett@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Richard
Hirsch <
> >>>> hirsch.dick@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What I'd like to do is use JQuery
tool tips to display the
> >> help.
> >>>> I just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> finished converting the action page
and just deleted the
> help.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> That sounds just about perfect!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck.  Do you have suggestion
of how to display a long
> >> url?
> >>>> Maybe
> >>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a mouse-over that displays the fulltext.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think for starters we could drop the
# of clicks and get
> away
> >>>> from a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> table-based model to a list-based model
in the html. That
> helps
> >>>>>>>>>>>> compact things a bit and gives us more
ability to use CSS for
> >>>> managing
> >>>>>>>>>>>> text display. The next step is to force
wrapping, which to the
> >>>> best of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> my knowledge is not really possible
in CSS2. Fortunately CSS3
> >> has
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "word-wrap:break-word" style, which
does exactly what we want.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've attached a mock-up done using CSS3
using this approach.
> >> What
> >>>> do you
> >>>>>>>>>>>> think?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Email it to me directly, since the esme-dev
mailing deamon
> >> usually
> >>>> kills
> >>>>>>>>>>> attachments.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Or attach it to JIRA-100 item.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> As a last resort, if we can't find a
way to extend this to
> >>>> non-CSS3
> >>>>>>>>>>>> browsers, we could probably do some
fancy JS or something to
> >>>> insert
> >>>>>>>>>>>> spaces into the text representation
of the link, allowing it
> to
> >>>> wrap.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What about creating dialogs but
not modal dialogs.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think modal dialogs and normal dialogs
suffer from the same
> >>>>>>>>>>>> disadvantages in this situation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ethan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>
>

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