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From Richard Hirsch <>
Subject Re: ESME for Case Management
Date Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:08:20 GMT

@sig: I thought you would find that interesting.  The document is
quite large but primarily concentrates on creating models for case
management processes. Once this model existed,  Thingamy could support
it and then people could port Thingamy models to other environments
and vice-versa.

The blog that started my journey today was from Sandy Kemsley:

Here is the full link to the OMG file:

What I found very interesting was the following description from the document:

"Automation of case management processes will
•	Enhance the ability for business people to learn from case histories
and make timely changes to a case management process model to evolve
the process to be more prescriptive and repeatable
•	Provide the means to ensure that appropriate records are
maintained—a case file—for the history of the case and actions taken
•	Provide for more timely initiation of appropriate action when
relevant circumstances of a case change
•	Provide for the application of regulations and policies at
appropriate points in these ad hoc processes.
•	Provide for the exchange of business process models that include
case management constructs."

I was thinking about the question whether ESME conversations could be
considered part of the case file.  I was also considering how the
"application of regulations and policies" - which reflect more of a
structured approach to processes - would fit into Thingamy/ESME
integration scenarios.

By the way, I just don't ski during the week. Weekends too - in fact,
I went cross country skiing twice today :->


On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Sig Rinde <> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> as the weather is rotten I'm having fun indoors - and thanks to Dick
> who works week-ends and skis during the week I was led to a PDF in
> regards Case Management (it was a two year invitation for Case
> Management System Modelling proposal to extend BPMN in no less than 43
> pages from - aka Oh My God dot org). It had neat definitions,
> and the one for Case Management made me go yikes:
> "A process that does not have a predefined sequence of activities but
> is directed by human or encoded knowledge to act according to the
> current situation of the subject of a case and related circumstances.
> Each execution of a case management process involves a particular
> situation, a case, and a desired outcome for that case. Each case
> involves a particular subject (a person, a legal action, an insurance
> claim, etc.) and the actions performed related to that subject to
> achieve the desired result. The determination of actions to take in
> each case involves the exercise of human judgement and
> decision-making. A case management process will produce a case file
> that is a record of the history of the case and may consist of
> multiple documents or records from relevant sources that become case
> file parts."
> Which BTW is a perfect description of Thingamy's "Work Processor" template.
> Dick again: "hearing more and more about "case management" as a way to
> support unstructured business processes" I think duh, now I know
> why...
> Combined, this prompted me to all of fifteen minutes of terms-tweaks
> in Thingamy (now all Case, Case File and such known terms) and a quick
> visit to Gimp to create a new logo for "Case Management", out went the
> "Work Processor" for that one.
> So voila, now you can brag that ESME is delivering real time
> Discussions & Discovery as part of a Case Management System (Note: Not
> Case Management support tool as most are, proper Case Running system
> rather, better to automate the boring part of meetings, emailing,
> reporting and organising I say.)
> Cheers on a Saturday,
> Sig
> p.s. If any of you need a case management system for your work group
> say so and I'll give you one... can even host it, ESME and all ;)

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