Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-esme-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: (qmail 37558 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2010 16:52:07 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 19 Jan 2010 16:52:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 32878 invoked by uid 500); 19 Jan 2010 16:52:06 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-esme-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 32802 invoked by uid 500); 19 Jan 2010 16:52:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact esme-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 32431 invoked by uid 99); 19 Jan 2010 16:52:05 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:52:05 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com designates 209.85.218.226 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.218.226] (HELO mail-bw0-f226.google.com) (209.85.218.226) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:51:59 +0000 Received: by bwz26 with SMTP id 26so2918518bwz.27 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 2010 08:51:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=k8XMHeqI76Ba0i0e8GorWxjCeXouLbtePe2qV18Ehg4=; b=UDuKfWtB35zsw5QXCLIk3UVSKkMvpoe0PzxR128bqj/c5N1h6V5Dk/Qp/UjaUlAGBZ OTyS3AIl+f+6DbqOqaZ3AFJ+rzIGdLnaMn0w5BgBiH34oEewXfOTn+iuD4UGArRznk3K bfqmvpsAP66UqLwZfrIoVtUuOaxiR/jPC70/8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nlIQN1uQyGQoSkncK9CJy6w6ZIbe20a8AGq2GPo32ocg57MZlo8ckA6Jbz4ZYQZ7TE 2kBHyWjMt1aHfKXqWxDLId4pCcRTcYAwM6XyKzo6F7xXfs9nYZ1hTrHQ+gaJfDzM3ZEE PS5lxRPL7PNiaFFnc570aXhSjayiCiilJOANU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.155.76 with SMTP id r12mr3997815bkw.175.1263919897723; Tue, 19 Jan 2010 08:51:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4464798E-839C-40B3-8267-0A63732A0592@gmail.com> References: <4464798E-839C-40B3-8267-0A63732A0592@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:51:37 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47) From: Robert Burrell Donkin To: esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Anne Kathrine Petter=F8e wrote: > PPMC and IPMC, please re-vote on the following regarding copyright issue = ESME-47. > 2. The Apache License block will be followed by a legacy comment (Only in= files where the WorldWide Conferencing notice currently exists, except any= files where user dpp has not made any contribution): > /* * Portions Copyright 2009 WorldWide Conferencing, LLC */ if this language has not been cleared with our lawyers on legal-private the= n : * i'm -1 on this phrasing * please raise a legal JIRA for appropriate language the reason for this veto is that i believe that this phrasing is 1. potentially untrue for example, if at some future time someone decides to revert all the relevant commits - or in time the code is so extensively revised then no portions of the code will be subject to that copyright and the statement will be untrue. 2. potentially dangerous for example it could be read as a claim rather than a statement AIUI (please jump in if i'm wrong) some source files was derived from originals that contained the notice "Copyright 2009 WorldWide Conferencing, LLC". something along the lines below seems to me more truthful: /* * This document was derived from an original containing the following copyright notice: * * Copyright 2009 WorldWide Conferencing, LLC * */ but IMO this is a job for a lawyer - robert