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From Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yoji...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: ESME in thingamy... a wee demo video
Date Sun, 24 Jan 2010 14:13:12 GMT
Better late than never right?
http://blog.esme.us/integration-with-thingamy/


On 7 Jan, 2010, at 11:35 , Sig Rinde wrote:

> While you're freezing on tramways I did a wee post about the same :)
> 
> http://thingamy.typepad.com/sigs_blog/2010/01/process-engine-social-media-thingamy-and-esme.html
> 
> 
> 2010/1/7 Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yojibee@gmail.com>:
>> Not too late at all! Thank you :)
>> Just spent 1.5 hours to get to work this morning (10 km journey), so probably won't
have time to write the post until tonight.
>> 
>> //Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 7. jan. 2010, at 09.34, Sig Rinde wrote:
>> 
>>> [unless I'm too late]
>>> 
>>> Don't know if the 'view' from Thingamy's side + the concept is useful?
>>> 
>>> Anyhoo:
>>> 
>>> Thingamy's 'Work Processor' runs the workflow without glitch with path
>>> choices at most corners - punting a little 'train' of relevant and
>>> inter-realted objects (Workflow/issue/request/idea object - the main
>>> one + Assignment objects) through a workflow. The Assignment objects
>>> holds the task instructions and captures what's done in the assignment
>>> while the Workflow objects holds the details about the
>>> issue/idea/request.
>>> That way an Assignee is presented with a list of relevant objects, all
>>> the pertinent information required for a specific task + the
>>> Assignment object to fill in with result and files.
>>> 
>>> When having been assigned a task, or when trying to get one's head
>>> around the progress of a workflow there is always a need for ad-hoc
>>> communication with co-workers and/or other participants, "anybody
>>> know...?", "Could somebody help with...?" etc. Normally that would
>>> happen by email, phone or walking over - all of which limits the
>>> discovery of the unknown, like a co-worker having unknown but useful
>>> knowledge or ideas.
>>> 
>>> ESME adds that crucial part of 'Discovery & Discussion' that
>>> inevitably happens during any process, in a task or when studying the
>>> progress. In addition it should become the natural in-system conduit
>>> for communication as well as the social pivot point, the water cooler,
>>> for the group/department/firm.
>>> 
>>> Most other E 2.0 efforts tries to add some notion of 'process' on top
>>> of separate and siloed apps drifting towards becoming middleware 2.0 -
>>> better is to have an underlying 'process engine' that gives the main
>>> flow framework and datamodel using social media for the in-task
>>> 'Discovery & Discussion'. Crucial is that the data in the two parts
>>> are related - in this case any ESME message can be related to any
>>> Thingamy object adding context to both sides.
>>> 
>>> I don't know what next step, as in features, will be - our philosophy
>>> is to keep it as simple as possible in the beginning and only add if
>>> it makes huge sense and works in practice. So we'll see, the good
>>> thing is that both ESME and Thingamy are extremely nimble and doing
>>> crazy stunts underway should be easy!
>>> 
>>> Thanks to all BTW!
>>> 
>>> Sig
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2010/1/7 Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yojibee@gmail.com>:
>>>> Great!
>>>> Anything special you would like to add from your side?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 7. jan. 2010, at 00.05, Sig Rinde wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> But of course!
>>>>> :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2010/1/6 Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yojibee@gmail.com>:
>>>>>> Hi Sig,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you for recording the video.
>>>>>> I will write a post about it on the ESME blog tomorrow if that's
OK with you?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> /Anne
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6. jan. 2010, at 20.27, Sig Rinde wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> just uploaded a shortish (7.5 mins) demo video here http://bit.ly/92c9on
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Third try no less, hard to give it all without confusing... trying
my
>>>>>>> best but I don't speak as fast as Mr Howlett :)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's kept very simple, but one day when I grow up I'll get good
a demo
>>>>>>> videos too...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> Sig
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> p.s. But overall I'm pretty enthusiastic about what ESME can
add to
>>>>>>> our Work Processor... even vice-vers, just have to let it play
out
>>>>>>> slowly
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 


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