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From Sig Rinde <...@rinde.com>
Subject Re: ESME in thingamy... a wee demo video
Date Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:08:24 GMT
Late is alway better than never!

Cool :)

On 24 January 2010 15:13, Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yojibee@gmail.com> wrote:
> Better late than never right?
> http://blog.esme.us/integration-with-thingamy/
>
>
> On 7 Jan, 2010, at 11:35 , Sig Rinde wrote:
>
>> While you're freezing on tramways I did a wee post about the same :)
>>
>> http://thingamy.typepad.com/sigs_blog/2010/01/process-engine-social-media-thingamy-and-esme.html
>>
>>
>> 2010/1/7 Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yojibee@gmail.com>:
>>> Not too late at all! Thank you :)
>>> Just spent 1.5 hours to get to work this morning (10 km journey), so probably
won't have time to write the post until tonight.
>>>
>>> //Anne
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7. jan. 2010, at 09.34, Sig Rinde wrote:
>>>
>>>> [unless I'm too late]
>>>>
>>>> Don't know if the 'view' from Thingamy's side + the concept is useful?
>>>>
>>>> Anyhoo:
>>>>
>>>> Thingamy's 'Work Processor' runs the workflow without glitch with path
>>>> choices at most corners - punting a little 'train' of relevant and
>>>> inter-realted objects (Workflow/issue/request/idea object - the main
>>>> one + Assignment objects) through a workflow. The Assignment objects
>>>> holds the task instructions and captures what's done in the assignment
>>>> while the Workflow objects holds the details about the
>>>> issue/idea/request.
>>>> That way an Assignee is presented with a list of relevant objects, all
>>>> the pertinent information required for a specific task + the
>>>> Assignment object to fill in with result and files.
>>>>
>>>> When having been assigned a task, or when trying to get one's head
>>>> around the progress of a workflow there is always a need for ad-hoc
>>>> communication with co-workers and/or other participants, "anybody
>>>> know...?", "Could somebody help with...?" etc. Normally that would
>>>> happen by email, phone or walking over - all of which limits the
>>>> discovery of the unknown, like a co-worker having unknown but useful
>>>> knowledge or ideas.
>>>>
>>>> ESME adds that crucial part of 'Discovery & Discussion' that
>>>> inevitably happens during any process, in a task or when studying the
>>>> progress. In addition it should become the natural in-system conduit
>>>> for communication as well as the social pivot point, the water cooler,
>>>> for the group/department/firm.
>>>>
>>>> Most other E 2.0 efforts tries to add some notion of 'process' on top
>>>> of separate and siloed apps drifting towards becoming middleware 2.0 -
>>>> better is to have an underlying 'process engine' that gives the main
>>>> flow framework and datamodel using social media for the in-task
>>>> 'Discovery & Discussion'. Crucial is that the data in the two parts
>>>> are related - in this case any ESME message can be related to any
>>>> Thingamy object adding context to both sides.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what next step, as in features, will be - our philosophy
>>>> is to keep it as simple as possible in the beginning and only add if
>>>> it makes huge sense and works in practice. So we'll see, the good
>>>> thing is that both ESME and Thingamy are extremely nimble and doing
>>>> crazy stunts underway should be easy!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to all BTW!
>>>>
>>>> Sig
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2010/1/7 Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yojibee@gmail.com>:
>>>>> Great!
>>>>> Anything special you would like to add from your side?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7. jan. 2010, at 00.05, Sig Rinde wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> But of course!
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/1/6 Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yojibee@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>> Hi Sig,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for recording the video.
>>>>>>> I will write a post about it on the ESME blog tomorrow if that's
OK with you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /Anne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6. jan. 2010, at 20.27, Sig Rinde wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> just uploaded a shortish (7.5 mins) demo video here http://bit.ly/92c9on
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Third try no less, hard to give it all without confusing...
trying my
>>>>>>>> best but I don't speak as fast as Mr Howlett :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's kept very simple, but one day when I grow up I'll get
good a demo
>>>>>>>> videos too...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>> Sig
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> p.s. But overall I'm pretty enthusiastic about what ESME
can add to
>>>>>>>> our Work Processor... even vice-vers, just have to let it
play out
>>>>>>>> slowly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
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