Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-esme-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: (qmail 86636 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2009 08:32:13 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 5 Nov 2009 08:32:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 47740 invoked by uid 500); 5 Nov 2009 08:32:13 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-esme-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 47687 invoked by uid 500); 5 Nov 2009 08:32:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact esme-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 47677 invoked by uid 99); 5 Nov 2009 08:32:13 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:32:13 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of markus.kohler@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.216.175] (HELO mail-px0-f175.google.com) (209.85.216.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:32:10 +0000 Received: by mail-px0-f175.google.com with SMTP id 5so5189670pxi.12 for ; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:31:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PhuWBZ5iPD8Ki3UoUGGkPebSV7J7S602oA3LA5rGoEQ=; b=Qga5SM/4uLAXgJqr3mjCkUqJYgizcNN8F52UbjGTPzKYiHZGfU3PaciHloubbk9Kmx kYZPAiKZEyMQnWth3BUWPlOqaLJXMVccJmKPPbZLSKAsZz/x+ARxsKtzlBe/apkXpf7O pAYzE+Zoup4wGubDBhJnzH5m2wgjyw1ojTdf8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=NoZTBduP4hdjq7hqUTQXFgzNPmQ6bOCnPf/tsdVHImcNpm+2D8xYZFUK5YrXgcbMLA QeBzfHK2Uy+F4OTrl0uzbP2bvSQDUKNtDztbHDZ/WxUOUDfnXnYzLf5+SmhqUTHLmZxo RU/IJOBh+8MhY4STtLckHqYpbc3ukfJxOLKxY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.135.20 with SMTP id i20mr141669rvd.176.1257409910117; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:31:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <68f4a0e80910251728te9c1248j10f1aa99c9f7cd2e@mail.gmail.com> <771905290911031021n6aa33b53q1532c04601fd6433@mail.gmail.com> <771905290911040043p61039939r99b3d1a602a92e8f@mail.gmail.com> <771905290911040158v539c016em1221acf54bbb5509@mail.gmail.com> <771905290911040809n24ad6a6ey9a00c1d819dfbb15@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:31:49 +0100 Message-ID: <771905290911050031g44923car8169ff62c8f453b5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Patch submitted, working towards API design From: Markus Kohler To: esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd290840796bd04779b8ff2 --000e0cd290840796bd04779b8ff2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Vassil, I fully agree. Regards, Markus On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Vassil Dichev wrote: > OK, let's start the discussion again. For the API calls which are not > comet-related, ESME could benefit to apply the RESTful principles > which make sense. > > As for Comet, my team has rejected Yammer in the past for short > scrum-like meetings of remote teams because if everyone has to wait > what the others have to say, the meeting is prohibitively long (and it > takes less than 30 seconds to update one message). I don't claim that > everyone has this need or even that we're not trying to fit a tool > into a scenario it wasn't meant to do. But it sure is one of the cool > factors for everyone I've demoed ESME to. If we're not different than > the competition- laconi.ca, Yammer, present.ly, etc., then I'm not > sure we can compete just on the speed of copying features from the > others. > > At any rate, time will tell if Comet is a key differentiator or is > dragging us down. But since we have it already, why would we give it > up? > > I would even suggest that we have both APIs compete with each other > and see which one clients would choose to use. > > Vassil > --000e0cd290840796bd04779b8ff2--