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From Anne Kathrine Petterøe <akpette...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Collaboration with #ubimic
Date Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:14:02 GMT
Thank you Dick.
Already retweeted.

/Anne

On 19. nov. 2009, at 09.12, Richard Hirsch wrote:

> Just blogged about our cooperation with #ubimic
> http://blog.esme.us/collaborative-efforts-with-ubimic/
>
> D.
>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
> <akpetteroe@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sorry, I have been so quiet on this thread.
>> In between work and travels, and finishing the design of the new UI  
>> I simply
>> didn't find the time.
>>
>> I am happy to see the collaboration take place and once the UI is  
>> up and
>> running I should have more time to help you out here.
>>
>> /Anne
>>
>> On 13. nov. 2009, at 10.00, Richard Hirsch wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> I'll work on some more details for the scenarios this weekend.
>>>
>>> D.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Martin Böhringer
>>> <martin.boehringer@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I pointed Marcelo from akibot to our conversation. He is very  
>>>> interested
>>>> and
>>>> will come back to us.
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>> Von: Richard Hirsch [mailto:hirsch.dick@gmail.com]
>>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. November 2009 08:30
>>>>> An: esme-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>>> Betreff: Re: Collaboration with #ubimic
>>>>>
>>>>> I was looking at the akibot offering last night and it does look
>>>>> interesting. Depending on the current akibot architecture, it  
>>>>> might be
>>>>> relatively easy to create an ESME bot based on their existing
>>>>> technology.  They could market their engine as a standalone  
>>>>> component
>>>>> and offer it to customers who want to track twitter or other
>>>>> microblogging systems such as ESME.  The bot could analyze the
>>>>> messages and either create new messages or integrate with back-end
>>>>> applications.  It would be a loosely-coupled integration.
>>>>>
>>>>> We talked about having tightly-integrated plugins a while back but
>>>>> never looked at it in more detail.
>>>>>
>>>>> We should keep akibot in mind and as things develop maybe you  
>>>>> connect
>>>>> us up to see how we might collaborate.
>>>>>
>>>>> D.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:17 AM, Martin Böhringer
>>>>> <martin.boehringer@wirtschaft.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Dick,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the current status on our student research is as following: I  
>>>>>> have a
>>>>>
>>>>> student
>>>>>>
>>>>>> who works on the LEGO thing, the hardware is all built up and the
>>>>>
>>>>> software
>>>>>>
>>>>>> part of the project starts tomorrow with a kickoff. Another  
>>>>>> student
>>>>>
>>>>> is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> working in his bachelor thesis on the "text analysis in  
>>>>>> information
>>>>>
>>>>> streams"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> topic. A bachelor thesis is not that big but I hope at least  
>>>>>> that we
>>>>>
>>>>> get
>>>>>>
>>>>>> some insights in what is possible and what not. He also should  
>>>>>> look
>>>>>
>>>>> at
>>>>>>
>>>>>> public available APIs (like opencalais and similar) and test them
>>>>>
>>>>> with
>>>>>>
>>>>>> microblogging-like texts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know from the akibot guys (akibot.com) that they want to go  
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>
>>>>> similar
>>>>>>
>>>>>> direction like us (supporting a ubiquitous microblogging scenario
>>>>>
>>>>> with their
>>>>>>
>>>>>> artificial intelligence microblogging bot). So this might be a  
>>>>>> good
>>>>>
>>>>> future
>>>>>>
>>>>>> collaboration opportunity, too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I would do next is looking for a student who wants to work
>>>>>
>>>>> intensively
>>>>>>
>>>>>> on the SAP/ESME scenario. Give me a view weeks for that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vassil has a good point here with the business value. We are all
>>>>>
>>>>> working in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> microblogging and therefore say "hey, tweeting SAP systems are  
>>>>>> really
>>>>>
>>>>> cool".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, "normal" people might not have this enthusiasm. Until we
>>>>>
>>>>> have real
>>>>>>
>>>>>> demo systems running little mockups (GUI prototypes) might do  
>>>>>> it. We
>>>>>
>>>>> have it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> on our agenda to create a #ubimic presentation where we state  
>>>>>> out the
>>>>>> motivation and the benefits. I hope to give some answers to the
>>>>>
>>>>> business
>>>>>>
>>>>>> value topic in this presentation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>> Von: Richard Hirsch [mailto:hirsch.dick@gmail.com]
>>>>>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. November 2009 23:28
>>>>>>> An: esme-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: Collaboration with #ubimic
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Martin,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see that you are doing some pretty cool stuff (for example,
 
>>>>>>> "Text
>>>>>>> Analysis in Information Streams: Status Quo and Future  
>>>>>>> Perspectives
>>>>>>> (http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/wirtschaft/wi2/wp/en/2009/08/10/text-
>>>>>>> analysis-in-information-streams-status-quo-and-future-
>>>>>
>>>>> perspectives/)".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What about including a text analysis aspect to the  
>>>>>>> collaboration?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> D.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Vassil Dichev <vdichev@apache.org

>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Martin,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Like I said last week when we first found out about #ubimic,
 
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>
>>>>> seem
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to think along the same lines as the ESME team. So I can't
 
>>>>>>>> find a
>>>>>
>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> reason why we shouldn't cooperate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IMHO David has defined very well the differentiating
>>>>>
>>>>> characteristics
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of ESME: real-time responsiveness and actions. Actions also
 
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>
>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> vague similarity to some Google Wave bots. More importantly,
>>>>>
>>>>> actions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> are important in many integration scenarios, which is the
 
>>>>>>>> goal of
>>>>>>>> ESME.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What I'm eagerly awaiting is a description of some of the
 
>>>>>>>> benefits
>>>>>
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the "aggregated data from people and things" in different
>>>>>
>>>>> scenarios,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but I guess that's one of the goals of the collaboration
ideas,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>> Vassil
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>


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