Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-esme-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: (qmail 83934 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2009 17:31:54 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 15 Oct 2009 17:31:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 59875 invoked by uid 500); 15 Oct 2009 17:31:54 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-esme-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 59828 invoked by uid 500); 15 Oct 2009 17:31:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact esme-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 59818 invoked by uid 99); 15 Oct 2009 17:31:54 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:31:54 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of jaaronfarr@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.209 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.220.209] (HELO mail-fx0-f209.google.com) (209.85.220.209) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:31:51 +0000 Received: by fxm5 with SMTP id 5so1350800fxm.27 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.154.213 with SMTP id p21mr216016bkw.163.1255627888310; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gandalf.local.gmail.com (83.sub-70-208-212.myvzw.com [70.208.212.83]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 12sm453452fks.8.2009.10.15.10.31.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:31:27 -0700 (PDT) From: J Aaron Farr To: esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: An interesting (and correct IMHO) review of Wave References: Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:31:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: (David Pollak's message of "Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:18:12 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu 15 Oct 2009 11:18, David Pollak wrot= e: > Folks, > I read this: > http://scobleizer.com/2009/10/03/google-waves-unproductive-email-metaphor= s/ > > I think it's exactly right. I don't agree with Scoble on this one. His criticisms of both email and wave are very valid, but his dismissal is rather shortsighted. Wave is barely even worthy of an 'alpha' label, let alone a 'beta'. Several of his concerns (deleting waves, BCC, social networking, etc.) are features planned but not yet implemented. If he's looking for a finished product, then he's simply looking for the wrong thing at this time. Otherwise, "patches welcome, Scoble." Furthermore, Wave and Twitter are very different beasts. I wouldn't compare them at all. I think this comparison is much better: http://danieltenner.com/posts/0012-google-wave.html Wave solves problems for teams working together, particularly in-house document sharing. It has _a_lot_ of missing features, but with the work being done on it, I expect a fair bit of improvement over the next year or two. --=20 J. Aaron Farr =E9=A6=AE=E5=82=91=E4=BB=81 www.cubiclemuses.com