Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-esme-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: (qmail 31405 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2009 18:40:07 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 17 Feb 2009 18:40:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 16020 invoked by uid 500); 17 Feb 2009 18:40:07 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-esme-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 16001 invoked by uid 500); 17 Feb 2009 18:40:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact esme-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 15990 invoked by uid 99); 17 Feb 2009 18:40:07 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:40:07 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=10.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [74.54.107.142] (HELO savernake.site5.com) (74.54.107.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:39:56 +0000 Received: from 75-173-113-170.albq.qwest.net ([75.173.113.170] helo=[192.168.0.65]) by savernake.site5.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LZUqt-0003vU-U2 for esme-dev@incubator.apache.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:39:28 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:39:26 -0700 To: esme-dev@incubator.apache.org From: Bill Fernandez Subject: [UI] My update Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - savernake.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - incubator.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - billfernandez.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org PROGRESS o I was able to spend a few days working on the web UI. Early on I realized that I didn't have a good data model (in the MVC sense) to work from, so ended up spending most of my time trying to define one (from the perspective of the end-user, not the programmer). o Faxed ICLA to Apache Foundation. o Registered at Apache Jira as "bill". PLANS o Want to develop a reasonably complete end-user's data model. o Then design an initial (and extensible) web UI. o I'm just starting a major new project for a client, but will try to interleave work for ESME. Can't predict schedule, but would like to start discussing the data model with the group. QUESTIONS o Do I have to physically mail the ICLA to Apache, or was faxing it enough? o I need to discuss ideas for the end-user's view of the data model. Is that best done by emailing to esme-dev@incubator.apache.org (sounds awkward), or do we have a discussion board somewhere where the various discussion threads will stay organized? COMMENTS Anne: Your "investments" work sounds great :-). Richard: Thanks re "Web UI Help"; it helped clarify some questions for me. Richard: I could enter goals directly into Jira, but would rather have the goals vetted by the group first. At present my (proposed) goals are: Define end-user data model. Design initial web UI. Once we have the data model, it might be useful to break down the UI design task into functional areas, and prioritize those, so we can have a roadmap for what would be included in successive versions of the UI design. -- ====================================================================== Bill Fernandez * User Interface Architect * Bill Fernandez Design (505) 346-3080 * bill@billfernandez.com * http://billfernandez.com ======================================================================