Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-esme-dev-archive@locus.apache.org Received: (qmail 82979 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2009 13:01:46 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Jan 2009 13:01:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 38043 invoked by uid 500); 2 Jan 2009 13:01:46 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-esme-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 38019 invoked by uid 500); 2 Jan 2009 13:01:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact esme-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 38008 invoked by uid 99); 2 Jan 2009 13:01:45 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 05:01:45 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=10.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [194.138.12.133] (HELO mxs2.siemens.at) (194.138.12.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 13:01:37 +0000 Received: from vies1kbx.sie.siemens.at ([158.226.129.82]) by mxs2.siemens.at with ESMTP id n02D1Lx9024794 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:01:21 +0100 Received: from nets139a.ww300.siemens.net ([192.168.217.3]) by vies1kbx.sie.siemens.at (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.1) with ESMTP id n02D1EwY024548 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:01:14 +0100 Received: from nets13ja.ww300.siemens.net ([158.226.250.79]) by nets139a.ww300.siemens.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:01:13 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C96CDA.30F6EE17" Subject: AW: AW: AW: Thoughts on building a business around ESME Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:59:34 +0100 Message-ID: <30DB6ACF50A0A3439F39EFEB1C52E166078F222B@nets13ja.ww300.siemens.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <30DB6ACF50A0A3439F39EFEB1C52E166078F222B@nets13ja.ww300.siemens.net> Thread-Topic: AW: AW: Thoughts on building a business around ESME Thread-Index: Acls1WusV5m1+6iAR3un32UlLLPBcgABIoX2 References: <384A40FC-EF39-4C04-8024-0DBE7CECB369@gmail.com><3aade1dd0812281731k318ba452mffa24680b353232f@mail.gmail.com><30DB6ACF50A0A3439F39EFEB1C52E166078F2225@nets13ja.ww300.siemens.net><3aade1dd0901012342m5305471aj94ec93b75a9e4685@mail.gmail.com><30DB6ACF50A0A3439F39EFEB1C52E166078F2226@nets13ja.ww300.siemens.net> <3aade1dd0901020138u3cd2eef2g57bcfc1aec7b9acf@mail.gmail.com> <30DB6ACF50A0A3439F39EFEB1C52E166078F2227@nets13ja.ww300.siemens.net> <495DFF9D.3080503@fortybeans.com> <30DB6ACF50A0A3439F39EFEB1C52E166078F2229@nets13ja.ww300.siemens.net> <495E07ED.4040408@fortybeans.com> From: "Hirsch, Richard" To: Cc: , "Bill Fernandez" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2009 13:01:13.0951 (UTC) FILETIME=[311E4EF0:01C96CDA] X-purgate: clean X-purgate: This mail is considered clean X-purgate-type: clean X-purgate-Ad: Checked for Spam by eleven - eXpurgate www.eXpurgate.net X-purgate-ID: 149917::090102140121-0B7FFBA0-036308A8/0-0/0-15 X-purgate-size: 8385/999999 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ------_=_NextPart_001_01C96CDA.30F6EE17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Agreed. I saw your comments on the lift mailing list. Looks like it is a = good start but I didn't see any details on container-based auth. D.=20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Darren Hague [mailto:dhague@fortybeans.com] Gesendet: Fr 1/2/2009 13:26 An: esme-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: marcia@marciaconner.com; Bill Fernandez Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Thoughts on building a business around ESME =20 Agreed. Top of my list right now is replacing/augmenting the OpenID=20 authentication with J2EE-based authentication (which would then allow=20 easy integration of directory servers, etc.), as a first step towards=20 implementing further authorisation options. - Darren Hirsch, Richard wrote: >> Along with this, of course, we need to implement the = personal/group/local/global permissions model. >> =20 > > If you look at Mike's blog, you will see that he also thinks this sort = of access control is critical. I agree and I think it should be on the = top of our feature list. > > D.=20 > > > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Darren Hague [mailto:dhague@fortybeans.com] > Gesendet: Fr 1/2/2009 12:50 > An: esme-dev@incubator.apache.org > Cc: marcia@marciaconner.com; Bill Fernandez > Betreff: Re: AW: Thoughts on building a business around ESME > =20 > I think that a useful lever for ESME adoption would be to make sure = that=20 > Twitter (& Yammer?) integration is built-in - in other words, ESME=20 > should be usable as a Twitter client, so people can access their wider = > network. Once this is under way, integrating local users becomes = easier. > > A useful default would be for users to specify their Twitter ID on=20 > registration/first login, and this would be their ESME ID too - @xyz=20 > would then work seamlessly. We would then need a convention for=20 > specifiying local-only users (i.e. those who do not have a Twitter=20 > account) - perhaps @_abcd or something similar. > > Along with this, of course, we need to implement the=20 > personal/group/local/global permissions model. > > - Darren > > > =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C96CDA.30F6EE17--