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From "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org>
Subject Moving Edgent Forward
Date Thu, 18 May 2017 02:49:11 GMT
Hi All,

Wanted to summarize some of what Dale, Will and I chatted about this
evening with regard to Edgent and some ideas on how to move Edgent forward.

I'll be honest, when I read the conflicting info from Kathey and in person
description from Justin I thought there was something awry, so I did want
to dig in further to having a full in depth dump of ideas.  It seems to me
that the disconnect is around past contributors vs active contributors.
>From what was described the only active contributor is Dale, whereas others
have contributed to the project in different ways (Will seems to be doing
some evangelism, Kathey's helped with documentation to name it a bit).  In
the past there was a bit more outside delivery but at the end of day its
not even a single company but a single contributor doing most of the work.
While its clear to me that the project gets The Apache Way, until there's a
bigger developer community I would be hesitant to say the podling is
completely ready to go.

Looking across Edgent, there's some clear areas of improvement for the
podling.  I'll list them below in no particular order, and ignoring that
I've already spoken in person about some of these (just to make it clear
that it's also happening on list):

- Downloads are an issue.  First problem is that the links from
http://edgent.apache.org/docs/downloads are pointing to directories on
dist.a.o instead of the direct downloads makes it harder for a user to
leverage Edgent.  Even then, the fact that the project is not distributed
in a repository manager (e.g. Maven) makes leveraging it even harder.

- There's some website branding issues, but not issues in the "this is
wrong" sense but more "this is weird" sense.  For instance, there's two
different themes from what I can tell, comparing
http://edgent.apache.org/docs/downloads and the main
http://edgent.apache.org/ the fact that there's two different color schemes
makes it feel like two different sites. The same color scheme, logos etc
should be in use.

- Figure out a way to build synergy with existing ASF projects over demoing
with commercial entities.  I threw out the idea to use Apache ActiveMQ
Artemis for MQTT based communication over leveraging Watson IoT - it builds
a more common use case (many people will already know ActiveMQ, and its
embeddable).  It would also be good to have an end to end sample that
demonstrates using Edgent in an all Apache way, no third parties required.

I believe if these start to get addressed, the project may start to see
more users with new use cases.  It is still a niche market.  I have
volunteered to mentor you.  If you'll accept me, I would like to:

- Be added to the roster in Whimsy
https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/edgent
- Access to your JIRA
- Access to your Confluence

Regards,

John

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