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From Queenie Ma <queeni...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Moving Edgent Forward
Date Thu, 18 May 2017 15:08:29 GMT
Hi John,

Thanks for your interest in Edgent. It would be wonderful to have you as a
mentor for our project! I can tell you have great ideas already :)

I can't speak to the first and last items you mentioned, but I'm glad you
brought up the second point. I agree that the website should be more
cohesive... perhaps by merging the home page into the documentation page.

Thanks,
Queenie

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:49 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Wanted to summarize some of what Dale, Will and I chatted about this
> evening with regard to Edgent and some ideas on how to move Edgent forward.
>
> I'll be honest, when I read the conflicting info from Kathey and in person
> description from Justin I thought there was something awry, so I did want
> to dig in further to having a full in depth dump of ideas.  It seems to me
> that the disconnect is around past contributors vs active contributors.
> From what was described the only active contributor is Dale, whereas others
> have contributed to the project in different ways (Will seems to be doing
> some evangelism, Kathey's helped with documentation to name it a bit).  In
> the past there was a bit more outside delivery but at the end of day its
> not even a single company but a single contributor doing most of the work.
> While its clear to me that the project gets The Apache Way, until there's a
> bigger developer community I would be hesitant to say the podling is
> completely ready to go.
>
> Looking across Edgent, there's some clear areas of improvement for the
> podling.  I'll list them below in no particular order, and ignoring that
> I've already spoken in person about some of these (just to make it clear
> that it's also happening on list):
>
> - Downloads are an issue.  First problem is that the links from
> http://edgent.apache.org/docs/downloads are pointing to directories on
> dist.a.o instead of the direct downloads makes it harder for a user to
> leverage Edgent.  Even then, the fact that the project is not distributed
> in a repository manager (e.g. Maven) makes leveraging it even harder.
>
> - There's some website branding issues, but not issues in the "this is
> wrong" sense but more "this is weird" sense.  For instance, there's two
> different themes from what I can tell, comparing
> http://edgent.apache.org/docs/downloads and the main
> http://edgent.apache.org/ the fact that there's two different color
> schemes
> makes it feel like two different sites. The same color scheme, logos etc
> should be in use.
>
> - Figure out a way to build synergy with existing ASF projects over demoing
> with commercial entities.  I threw out the idea to use Apache ActiveMQ
> Artemis for MQTT based communication over leveraging Watson IoT - it builds
> a more common use case (many people will already know ActiveMQ, and its
> embeddable).  It would also be good to have an end to end sample that
> demonstrates using Edgent in an all Apache way, no third parties required.
>
> I believe if these start to get addressed, the project may start to see
> more users with new use cases.  It is still a niche market.  I have
> volunteered to mentor you.  If you'll accept me, I would like to:
>
> - Be added to the roster in Whimsy
> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/edgent
> - Access to your JIRA
> - Access to your Confluence
>
> Regards,
>
> John
>

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