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From Julien Le Dem <jul...@dremio.com>
Subject Re: Naming the new ValueVector Initiative
Date Tue, 01 Dec 2015 18:51:48 GMT
+1

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Wes McKinney <wes@cloudera.com> wrote:

> Should we have a last call for votes, closing EOD tomorrow (Tuesday)? I
> missed this for a few days last week with holiday travel.
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Julian Hyde <julian@hydromatic.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Consulting a lawyer is part of the Apache branding process but the first
> > stage is to gather a list of potential conflicts -
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-90 is an
> example.
> >
> > The other part, frankly, is to pick your battles.
> >
> > A year or so ago Actian re-branded Vectorwise as Vector.
> >
> http://www.zdnet.com/article/actian-consolidates-its-analytics-portfolio/.
> > Given that it is an analytic database in the Hadoop space I think that is
> > as close to a “direct hit” as it gets. I don’t think we need a lawyer to
> > tell us that. Certainly it makes sense to look for conflicts for the
> other
> > alternatives before consulting lawyers.
> >
> > Julian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 25, 2015, at 9:42 PM, Marcel Kornacker <marcel@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Jacques Nadeau <jacques@dremio.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Ok guys,
> >>
> >> I don't think anyone is doing a thorough analysis of viaability. I did a
> >> quick glance and the top one (Vector) seems like it would have an issue
> >> with conflict of an Actian product. The may be fine. Let's do a second
> >> phase vote.
> >>
> >
> > I'm assuming you mean Vectorwise?
> >
> > Before we do anything else, could we have a lawyer look into this? Last
> > time around that I remember (Parquet), Twitter's lawyers did a good job
> of
> > weeding out the potential trademark violations.
> >
> > Alex, could Twitter get involved this time around as well?
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Pick your top 3 (1,2,3 with 3 being top preference)
> >>
> >> Let's get this done by Friday and then we can do a podling name search
> >> starting with the top one.
> >>
> >> Link again:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q6UqluW6SLuMKRwW2TBGBzHfYLlXYm37eKJlIxWQGQM/edit#gid=304381532&vpid=A1
> >>
> >> thanks
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jacques Nadeau
> >> CTO and Co-Founder, Dremio
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Jacques Nadeau <jacques@dremio.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ok, it looks like we have a candidate list (we actually got 11 since
> >>> there was a three-way tie for ninth place):
> >>>
> >>> VectorArrowhoneycombHerringbonejoistV2Pietcolbufbatonimpulsevictor
> >>> Next we need to do trademark searches on each of these to see whether
> >>> we're likely to have success. I've moved candidates to a second tab:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q6UqluW6SLuMKRwW2TBGBzHfYLlXYm37eKJlIxWQGQM/edit#gid=304381532
> >>>
> >>> Anybody want to give a hand in analyzing potential conflicts?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Jacques Nadeau
> >>> CTO and Co-Founder, Dremio
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Jacques Nadeau <jacques@dremio.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Everybody should pick their ten favorites using the numbers 1 to 10.
> >>>>
> >>>> 10 is most preferred
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Jacques Nadeau
> >>>> CTO and Co-Founder, Dremio
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Single vote for most preferred?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Single transferable vote?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:50 AM, Jacques Nadeau <jacques@dremio.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Given that a bunch of people added names to the sheet, I'll
take
> that
> >>>>>> as tacit agreement to the proposed process.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Let's move to the first vote phase. I've added a column for
> >>>>>> everybody's votes. Let's try to wrap up the vote by 10am on
> Wednesday.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> thanks!
> >>>>>> Jacques
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Jacques Nadeau
> >>>>>> CTO and Co-Founder, Dremio
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Jacques Nadeau <
> jacques@apache.org>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hey Guys,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It sounds like we need to do a little more work on the Vector
> >>>>>>> proposal
> >>>>>>> before the board would like to consider it. The main point
of
> >>>>>>> contention
> >>>>>>> right now is the name of the project. We need to decide
on a name
> >>>>>>> and get
> >>>>>>> it signed off through PODLINGNAMESEARCH.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Naming is extremely subjective so I'd like to propose a
process for
> >>>>>>> selection that minimizes pain. This is an initial proposal
and
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We do the naming in the following steps
> >>>>>>> - 1: Collect a set of names to be considered
> >>>>>>> - 2: Run a vote for 2 days where each member ranks their
top 10
> >>>>>>> options
> >>>>>>> 1..10
> >>>>>>> - 3: Take the top ten vote getters and do a basic analysis
of
> >>>>>>> whether we
> >>>>>>> think that any have legal issues. Keep dropping names that
have
> this
> >>>>>>> until
> >>>>>>> we get with 10 reasonably solid candidate names
> >>>>>>> - 5: Take the top ten names and give people 48 hours to
rank their
> >>>>>>> top 3
> >>>>>>> names
> >>>>>>> - 6: Start a PODLINGNAMESEARCH on the top rank one, if that
doesn't
> >>>>>>> work,
> >>>>>>> try the second and third options.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I suggest we take name suggestions for step 1 from everyone
but
> then
> >>>>>>> constrain the voting to the newly proposed project [1].
We could
> >>>>>>> just do
> >>>>>>> this in a private email thread but I think doing it on Drill
dev is
> >>>>>>> better
> >>>>>>> in the interest of transparency. This isn't the perfect
place for
> >>>>>>> that but
> >>>>>>> I'm not sure a better place exists.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm up for changing any or all of this depending on what
others
> >>>>>>> think. Just
> >>>>>>> wanted to get the ball rolling on a proposed process.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If this works, I've posted a doc at [2] that we can use
for step 1.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> Jacques
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [1] List of proposed new project members/voters: Todd Lipcon,
Ted
> >>>>>>> Dunning,
> >>>>>>> Michael Stack, P. Taylor Goetz, Julian Hyde, Julien Le Dem,
Jacques
> >>>>>>> Nadeau,
> >>>>>>> James Taylor, Jake Luciani, Parth Chandra, Alex Levenson,
Marcel
> >>>>>>> Kornacker,
> >>>>>>> Steven Phillips, Hanifi Gunes, Wes McKinney, Jason Altekruse,
David
> >>>>>>> Alves,
> >>>>>>> Zain Asgar, Ippokratis Pandis, Abdel Hakim Deneche, Reynold
Xin.
> >>>>>>> [2]
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q6UqluW6SLuMKRwW2TBGBzHfYLlXYm37eKJlIxWQGQM/edit#gid=0
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>



-- 
Julien

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