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From Jacques Nadeau <jacq...@dremio.com>
Subject Re: Naming the new ValueVector Initiative
Date Tue, 01 Dec 2015 03:01:10 GMT
+1

--
Jacques Nadeau
CTO and Co-Founder, Dremio

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Wes McKinney <wes@cloudera.com> wrote:

> Should we have a last call for votes, closing EOD tomorrow (Tuesday)? I
> missed this for a few days last week with holiday travel.
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Julian Hyde <julian@hydromatic.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Consulting a lawyer is part of the Apache branding process but the first
>> stage is to gather a list of potential conflicts -
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-90 is an example.
>>
>> The other part, frankly, is to pick your battles.
>>
>> A year or so ago Actian re-branded Vectorwise as Vector.
>> http://www.zdnet.com/article/actian-consolidates-its-analytics-portfolio/.
>> Given that it is an analytic database in the Hadoop space I think that is
>> as close to a “direct hit” as it gets. I don’t think we need a lawyer to
>> tell us that. Certainly it makes sense to look for conflicts for the other
>> alternatives before consulting lawyers.
>>
>> Julian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 25, 2015, at 9:42 PM, Marcel Kornacker <marcel@cloudera.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Jacques Nadeau <jacques@dremio.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok guys,
>>>
>>> I don't think anyone is doing a thorough analysis of viaability. I did a
>>> quick glance and the top one (Vector) seems like it would have an issue
>>> with conflict of an Actian product. The may be fine. Let's do a second
>>> phase vote.
>>>
>>
>> I'm assuming you mean Vectorwise?
>>
>> Before we do anything else, could we have a lawyer look into this? Last
>> time around that I remember (Parquet), Twitter's lawyers did a good job of
>> weeding out the potential trademark violations.
>>
>> Alex, could Twitter get involved this time around as well?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Pick your top 3 (1,2,3 with 3 being top preference)
>>>
>>> Let's get this done by Friday and then we can do a podling name search
>>> starting with the top one.
>>>
>>> Link again:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q6UqluW6SLuMKRwW2TBGBzHfYLlXYm37eKJlIxWQGQM/edit#gid=304381532&vpid=A1
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jacques Nadeau
>>> CTO and Co-Founder, Dremio
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Jacques Nadeau <jacques@dremio.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, it looks like we have a candidate list (we actually got 11 since
>>>> there was a three-way tie for ninth place):
>>>>
>>>> VectorArrowhoneycombHerringbonejoistV2Pietcolbufbatonimpulsevictor
>>>> Next we need to do trademark searches on each of these to see whether
>>>> we're likely to have success. I've moved candidates to a second tab:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q6UqluW6SLuMKRwW2TBGBzHfYLlXYm37eKJlIxWQGQM/edit#gid=304381532
>>>>
>>>> Anybody want to give a hand in analyzing potential conflicts?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jacques Nadeau
>>>> CTO and Co-Founder, Dremio
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Jacques Nadeau <jacques@dremio.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Everybody should pick their ten favorites using the numbers 1 to 10.
>>>>>
>>>>> 10 is most preferred
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jacques Nadeau
>>>>> CTO and Co-Founder, Dremio
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Single vote for most preferred?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Single transferable vote?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:50 AM, Jacques Nadeau <jacques@dremio.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Given that a bunch of people added names to the sheet, I'll take
>>>>>>> that as tacit agreement to the proposed process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's move to the first vote phase. I've added a column for
>>>>>>> everybody's votes. Let's try to wrap up the vote by 10am on Wednesday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Jacques Nadeau
>>>>>>> CTO and Co-Founder, Dremio
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Jacques Nadeau <jacques@apache.org
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey Guys,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It sounds like we need to do a little more work on the Vector
>>>>>>>> proposal
>>>>>>>> before the board would like to consider it. The main point
of
>>>>>>>> contention
>>>>>>>> right now is the name of the project. We need to decide on
a name
>>>>>>>> and get
>>>>>>>> it signed off through PODLINGNAMESEARCH.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Naming is extremely subjective so I'd like to propose a process
for
>>>>>>>> selection that minimizes pain. This is an initial proposal
and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We do the naming in the following steps
>>>>>>>> - 1: Collect a set of names to be considered
>>>>>>>> - 2: Run a vote for 2 days where each member ranks their
top 10
>>>>>>>> options
>>>>>>>> 1..10
>>>>>>>> - 3: Take the top ten vote getters and do a basic analysis
of
>>>>>>>> whether we
>>>>>>>> think that any have legal issues. Keep dropping names that
have
>>>>>>>> this until
>>>>>>>> we get with 10 reasonably solid candidate names
>>>>>>>> - 5: Take the top ten names and give people 48 hours to rank
their
>>>>>>>> top 3
>>>>>>>> names
>>>>>>>> - 6: Start a PODLINGNAMESEARCH on the top rank one, if that
doesn't
>>>>>>>> work,
>>>>>>>> try the second and third options.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suggest we take name suggestions for step 1 from everyone
but then
>>>>>>>> constrain the voting to the newly proposed project [1]. We
could
>>>>>>>> just do
>>>>>>>> this in a private email thread but I think doing it on Drill
dev is
>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>> in the interest of transparency. This isn't the perfect place
for
>>>>>>>> that but
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure a better place exists.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm up for changing any or all of this depending on what
others
>>>>>>>> think. Just
>>>>>>>> wanted to get the ball rolling on a proposed process.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If this works, I've posted a doc at [2] that we can use for
step 1.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1] List of proposed new project members/voters: Todd Lipcon,
Ted
>>>>>>>> Dunning,
>>>>>>>> Michael Stack, P. Taylor Goetz, Julian Hyde, Julien Le Dem,
Jacques
>>>>>>>> Nadeau,
>>>>>>>> James Taylor, Jake Luciani, Parth Chandra, Alex Levenson,
Marcel
>>>>>>>> Kornacker,
>>>>>>>> Steven Phillips, Hanifi Gunes, Wes McKinney, Jason Altekruse,
David
>>>>>>>> Alves,
>>>>>>>> Zain Asgar, Ippokratis Pandis, Abdel Hakim Deneche, Reynold
Xin.
>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q6UqluW6SLuMKRwW2TBGBzHfYLlXYm37eKJlIxWQGQM/edit#gid=0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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