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[78.192.106.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ft8sm4030453wib.11.2012.02.07.15.20.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:20:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F31B1AD.7010509@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 00:20:13 +0100 From: Emmanuel Lecharny Reply-To: elecharny@apache.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users@directory.apache.org Subject: Re: [doc] apacheds v2.0 docs References: <1328281855.4530.25.camel@vsrv-01.tor.crsnetworks.ca> <4F2BFCB2.4030501@gmail.com> <1328655193.14105.39.camel@vsrv-01.tor.crsnetworks.ca> In-Reply-To: <1328655193.14105.39.camel@vsrv-01.tor.crsnetworks.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Ross, comments inline... On 2/7/12 11:53 PM, Ross West wrote: > Okay, I'm about half way through doing up a set of docs based upon > v2.0.0-M3 (I'll update to -M5 shortly), and just wanted to throw a > couple of things "out there" for comments before I'm way too far to fix > things. This has morphed from the simpler docs I was thinking about > earlier to a much larger thing. > > - Off the top: I've combined the two user guides (basic + advanced) into > a single "admin" guide (lots of cut'n'paste done). My focus is solidly > on the system administration side of running a v2.0+ server as stable as > possible and knowing what knobs to tweak in the configs. We have created two separated guides because we realized that : - not many users know about LDAP. Most of them are requested to "manage the damn LDAP server" because nobody else wants to do it - most of the time, you just need to tweak a few things, not very complexe - when it comes to get dirty, and nasty, then you need a very deep set od documentation about the server This is why we started with a basic user guide (containing really the information that 90% of the users will need) and a advanced guys for thos crazy enough to have fun with LDAP :) More seriously, it's difficult to merge both of them without going deep into the details from chapter one, and scare the beginners... > > - confluence layout: Currently I'm just keeping the current book.txt > layout that's being used in the svn checkout I've got. I see in > jira:DIRSERVER-1678 that there's thought in going to a chapter style > layout for filenames. Did this go any further, or is it "writer's > choice" for the time being? We have tried to list some chapters covering the different aspects of the server, but this is barely more than a writer choice. We can change that. For instance, as every chapter has a incremental number, it's hard to add a new chapter in the middle : you have to change all the following chapter's numbers. So if you have something better in mind, that would be worth discussing it. > > - Is the Directory Studio app considered the best/true way of > configuring ApacheDS, or should I basically ignore it's built in > configuration system and go with generic ldap instructions? The biggest advantage of using Studio is that it's a GUI, so it's easier to explain in a document. Now, it would also be a good thing to explain the layouts and how to configure the server using LDAP. > > - NTP, HTTP, DNS servers: Are these actually part of the system, or > really just proof of concept type services that aren't really used in > day to day ops (Ie: Do I attempt to document them or tell people to just > keep them disabled) They are proof of concept. You can ignore them atm. > > - Tanuki Java Service Wrapper - I'm assuming this is the community > edition that gets installed? [I'm just going over logging options] Yes. This is the only one which has a ASL 2.0 compatible licence. We haven't upgraded to anything above 3.2.3. > > > > I think that's it for the moment, but I'm sure I'll have more later. You will always be welcomed ! -- Regards, Cordialement, Emmanuel Lécharny www.iktek.com