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From "Zheng, Kai" <>
Subject RE: [VOTE] - Release Apache Kerby 1.0.0 (take II)
Date Wed, 17 May 2017 21:42:13 GMT
>> I think Kerby is a promising project, but I don't think it has the community yet to
justify being a TLP.
Yeah, Kerberos isn't the cool thing that many developers are eager to work on. There are many
reasons. So we probably shouldn't expect a large community for this, it may never happen.

On the other hand, here is the community, as the Apache Directory community. If we have a
TLP, we can duplicate the PMCs and committers. Kerby itself does have already diverse committers.

My two cents. The question is, would a TLP make Kerby and Directory more healthy, or make
us more happy, or make new contributors more easy? Simpler, if a TLP can help build and attract
a better community for Kerby, we probably should go.

Thanks Colm for the work to use Kerby in other ASF projects. It does help. I thought we folks
here could be able to build a better ecosystem in the security domain for Apache world, we
have LDAP and Kerberos, the security basics, the very good base. IMO, we should have quite
a few TLP projects around the two basics, instead of ONE monster of so many children projects
all here together, looking at the Directory hope page. If I'm a developer and want to contribute
to Kerby, I would be frustrated to figure out the right ML, the right REPO and the right relationship/deps
with other components. 

Kerby should have the potential, Directory and big data projects can use it. The question
is, will a TLP make Kerby next solid step?


-----Original Message-----
From: Colm O hEigeartaigh [] 
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: [VOTE] - Release Apache Kerby 1.0.0 (take II)

I think Kerby is a promising project, but I don't think it has the community yet to justify
being a TLP. Hopefully as more Big Data projects adopt it for testing it will continue to
grow. Apache WSS4J and CXF have switched to use Kerby 1.0.0 for integeration testing. I will
shortly submit a patch to Apache Ranger to use it as well, as there are no kerberos integration
tests done there.


On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 3:32 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny <>

> Le 17/05/2017 à 15:06, Zheng, Kai a écrit :
> > Good ask. Maybe we could address questions like such:
> > 1. How many issues we fixed since RC2 release, any features we've added?
> > 2. A summary about Kerby and high level functionalities list?
> > 3. Some links to the release artifacts and project.
> >
> > Not sure if any best practice here.
> The best practice is to send an announcement on, 
> but you already know that.
> You may want to be a bit broader : please contact 
> (Sally Khudairi) if you want some more PR, they would be pleased to 
> help you drafting something that will be pushed to other channels.
> That being said, you should also start thinking about moving Kerby to 
> a TLP, now that 1.0 is out. Please consider doing so while discussing 
> with press@a.o, so that both moves are done at the same time, in order 
> to have more spotlights on the project.
> --
> Emmanuel Lecharny

Colm O hEigeartaigh

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