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From Jeff MAURY <>
Subject Re: Status...
Date Fri, 05 Apr 2013 11:46:46 GMT
Regarding my product, the lowest supported version of Eclipse is 3.5 and it
is sometimes difficult to support.
I've never seen a customer site using this version.
>From an ISV point of view, it is very common to support current version and
previous version of products only.
If you apply it to Eclipse and assumed that 4.2 is not a real version (due
to its failure), this give 3.7 and 3.6.
I've head that the Eclipse Foundation will now have LTS versions so this
could be interesting to see which Eclipse version they start from in LTS


On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Pierre-Arnaud Marcelot <>wrote:

> Hi Stefan,
> On 4 avr. 2013, at 21:20, Stefan Seelmann <> wrote:
> > On 03.04.2013 17:23, Pierre-Arnaud Marcelot wrote:
> >> Thanks Jeff.
> >>
> >> I did look at that before working on it.
> >> But, as far as I remember it was requiring a more recent version of
> Eclipse (3.5 maybe, I don't remember exactly) than what we currently
> support (3.3 I guess).
> >> So the API is not available.
> >>
> >> The fact that you don't need to provide a password to read the data is
> interesting and that's exactly why I chose to make this optional in Studio.
> >> I really think most of our users don't want to be asked a password when
> connecting to a server.
> >> But for people dealing with very sensitive server connection, the
> passwords keystore is a must have.
> >
> > Hm, I wonder why we need to stick with the 3.3 API? I mean that version
> > is more then 5 years old. And the RCP application is already up-to-date
> > and used version 3.8.
> Yeah, I was also thinking about moving the target to something more recent.
> It's just that there's already many things to do and not much time.
> So I was a bit hesitant on adding another subject on my plate.
> I don't know which version we should target as our minimum requirements
> these days without upsetting too many users.
> 3.6, 3.7?
> If you guys, Stefan, Jeff, have any idea. ;-)
> >> On 3 avr. 2013, at 17:10, Jeff MAURY <> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Please note that Eclipse provides such a functionality out of the box.
> The secure storage is managed by Eclipse and you just need to save your
> sensitive configuration data (password). There is no need to provide a
> password when reading the data (at least on Windows at Eclipse has an
> integration with the Windows authentication layer).
> >>> I have used it in my Eclipse based product, and for security reasons,
> I choose to make it non optional.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Pierre-Arnaud Marcelot <
>> wrote:
> >>> In the past week, I've been working on a interesting and very
> important feature for Apache Directory Studio: secure storage of
> connections passwords into a password-protected keystore.
> >>>
> >>> At the moment, when you check the "Save password" checkbox in the
> properties of a connection, that password gets saved in the connections
> file alongside other parameters like host, port, etc.
> >>> The problem is that the password is saved in clear text in the file
> and that could be an issue for some users.
> >>>
> >>> So, the idea is to have an option (disabled by default) in Apache
> Directory Studio to save the passwords of the connections in a keystore
> protected by a "master password". This password would be asked when
> accessing the password of a connection (opening a connection for example).
> >>>
> >>> This is a very low-level addition in Studio's code and a very
> sensitive refactoring, so I'm extra cautious here.
> >>>
> >>> I really think we can't release a 2.0 version of Studio without this
> kind of functionality. It's really a must-have.
> >
> > I agree that we need such a thing. I feel ashamed and careless that I
> > implemented the password saving without proper security back then :(
> Don't be. Since the release of Studio, we didn't have so many complaints
> about it.
> Software gets improved over time. :)
> I was talking with some colleagues here about how the connections are
> stored and they were kind of surprised to see the connection passwords in
> the connections file.
> On the other hand, they are quite happy that Studio doesn't ask their
> passwords all the time, so they agree that's a good compromise for
> non-critical passwords.
> That's why I think we shouldn't enforce it as a default value.
> But for some users dealing with highly sensitive data, having an option to
> securely save their connection passwords, with just the hassle of being ask
> for a master password from time to time, is really needed.
> It's going to be a great addition for Studio 2.0.
> Regards,
> Pierre-Arnaud
> > Kind Regards,
> > Stefan


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