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From Emmanuel Lecharny <>
Subject Re: [ApacheDS 2.0] OSGI, Implementing Services
Date Wed, 19 Oct 2011 07:20:36 GMT
On 10/19/11 9:08 AM, Pierre-Arnaud Marcelot wrote:
> Hi Göktürk,
> On 19 oct. 2011, at 06:35, Göktürk Gezer wrote:
>> Hi Emmanuel,
>> I'm doing some experiments on DS. I saw some problems on our way. Before diving deeper
i must consult you about somethings.
>> I'm changing the way we deal with schema elements(LdapComparator,Normalizer,SyntaxChecker)
so that they will be pluggable. Schema manager tries to classload them that's where i'm going
to change. I'll make SchemaManager get them through OSGI, but while i change the core parts,
there are lots of place on the code that use them as tool(Tests espacially).
> Although I'm 100% positive to move ApacheDS as a whole into OSGI, I'm *really* not sure
the LDAP API should rely on OSGI features for it's extensibility.
> As an API, it's meant to be used by many third party developers and I personally think
we can't afford to be only compatible with OSGI. I'm afraid we still need to support the API
as a set of simple jars (that's why we added the 'standalone' project at the time with Alex,
supporting both OSGI and non-OSGI environments).

To some extent, I feel a bit the same. It would be a real pain if we 
require that our users include an OSGi container in order to use our API.

Now, is there a way to keep the schema elements class-loaded, without 
having to make them bundles ?
>> And once the class is manipulated with IPojo, it is not so easy to instantiate it
through normal ways. Before solving that topic i must know what do you think about below issues:
>> 1- Tests are using them heavily. So changing the way we load them will broke these
unit tests. So we must change them to be OSGI compatible. I'm talking aside from OSGI integration
tests. These changes will make these unit tests unable to run without OSGI.(Pax-Exam will
be used most probably)
> Indeed, the framework will need, just like the ApacheDS service project, to start it's
own embedded OSGI container (Felix or Karaf) and launch the server through it.
I think that it's not really a big issue, as we just need to modify the 
test framework we use.

>> 2- Because more than one instances of the ApacheDS may be launched inside same JVM.
We must either provide same copies of these schema elements to all instances or we must create
separate ones for each one. They are separated between instances at that moment because of
the class load approach, but as far as i see no context information is kept in those elements.
So we can share them between ApacheDS instances. What do you think?
> I not sure these can be shared between ApacheDS instances. Two instances can have very
different schemas (with schema elements having different 'enabled' states from one instance
to the other for example).


Emmanuel Lécharny

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