Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-directory-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 39488 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2010 11:22:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 6 Sep 2010 11:22:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 43486 invoked by uid 500); 6 Sep 2010 11:22:23 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-directory-dev-archive@directory.apache.org Received: (qmail 43356 invoked by uid 500); 6 Sep 2010 11:22:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@directory.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@directory.apache.org Received: (qmail 43349 invoked by uid 99); 6 Sep 2010 11:22:21 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:22:21 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of pajbam@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.44 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.44] (HELO mail-ww0-f44.google.com) (74.125.82.44) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:21:57 +0000 Received: by wwj40 with SMTP id 40so6388669wwj.1 for ; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 04:21:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:content-type :mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=qvekqf+pCWADj+k5HQOEuCmm13PYrh8g42O3y522BMQ=; b=QAP3oSRcpSPxp51AhxdOwkO8n17RgeX9dqXkvLppVQpsHYw6602pqeFeJGWsxplw0s 0X5FtUbEXmLJr0jsj70dbdT/YSOJkucs5CbbHvUwjgeU6oVHnjpJ/MBLMjfQiam4EtcO yy9uKcTT2qdxi4rfg7/BSIdeI1HVnp75iDyYg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=yH7I8xe75JhL4ikFc/3hUkzZ40sZ2CQYuUcPUr9RH6Rp81wJa3HQ9NuPO3GFua6O5y aDN8o/8uppOhOcBELGdtUMczb3rzKyKPphN4I9LhsFTyAV8JXbmo+XSQxmvDOVB2QRZQ JiTieW1kBvrdBY1Pz2OHl4riUx+Ql8Jbodw2A= Received: by 10.216.47.140 with SMTP id t12mr3622467web.102.1283772096822; Mon, 06 Sep 2010 04:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.52] (lon92-10-78-226-4-211.fbx.proxad.net [78.226.4.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p45sm3253651weq.21.2010.09.06.04.21.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 06 Sep 2010 04:21:35 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Pierre-Arnaud Marcelot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Subject: Re: ApacheDS Manuals releasing From: Pierre-Arnaud Marcelot In-Reply-To: <4C7CC05C.60906@labeo.de> Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 13:21:35 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0D96F633-A524-4F76-865A-7989A7C6C366@marcelot.net> References: <4C7CB61E.9020905@otego.com> <4C7CC05C.60906@labeo.de> To: "Apache Directory Developers List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi Stefan, On 31 ao=FBt 2010, at 10:42, Stefan Zoerner wrote: > Hi Felix! >=20 > Felix Knecht wrote: >> I just wonder what of the manual shall be release to where. >> Do we need to create a zip file of all the generated docs and release = it >> as artifact like releasing a jar file? ATM the generated docs are >> deployed to p.a.o/www/directory.apache.org/apacheds/manuals for = snapshot >> deployment as well as for release deployment in a subdirectory >> *-user-guide-{version}. >=20 > Are the guides created by docbook already deployed? The URL > http://directory.apache.org/apacheds/manuals/ > is empty ... >=20 >> Do we need to deploy a released source zip of all? >> Do we need to deploy a release pom.xml (ATM the module is >> pom? >> I'm even don't know if it's possible to release and deploy a zip. >> Any thoughts? >=20 > =46rom my point it would be interesting to have the manuals (guides) = be part of the ApacheDS release itself. PDF versions should be = sufficient. No need to have the html in the download. I was first tempted to have two separate repos, one for the server and = another for its documentation. It had the advantage to be able to = release both independently... ... But, in the end, and from a user point of view, I think you're right = and the documentation should actually be part of the release. It will be a lot more work and will probably take a little more time, = but in the end, the user experience is way better. Having an up-to-date documentation alongside the server is really a must = have for our users. Furthermore, as the release is dependent on the documentation, it will = force us to update the documentation, something we've not been quite = good at since a few last releases (and the documentation becoming = release after release less accurate). However, I'd rather encourage the use of the HTML version when bundling = the documentation in the release packages. The main reason for this is = that it does not require an additional installation of a PDF Reader = software (Mac OS X and Linux comes with a built-in reader, but Windows = doesn't and more than 2/3 of our users are on Windows). > I have started to rework the Basic User's Guide for the 1.5.7 version = of ApacheDS. This task looks meaningful to me since editing takes place = in svn, and the efforts are therefore more durable. It will take some = time, but I hope a presentable version will be available in some weeks. Thanks Stefan! Regards, Pierre-Arnaud=