Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-directory-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 75608 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2008 11:26:55 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 6 Jan 2008 11:26:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 73569 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jan 2008 11:26:44 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-directory-dev-archive@directory.apache.org Received: (qmail 73528 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jan 2008 11:26:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@directory.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@directory.apache.org Received: (qmail 73516 invoked by uid 99); 6 Jan 2008 11:26:44 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 03:26:44 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of minfrin@sharp.fm designates 64.49.220.200 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.49.220.200] (HELO chandler.sharp.fm) (64.49.220.200) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 11:26:31 +0000 Received: from chandler.sharp.fm (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chandler.sharp.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7890E53D0 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 05:26:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from 87-194-125-16.bethere.co.uk (87-194-125-16.bethere.co.uk [87.194.125.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by chandler.sharp.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25AB1E4389 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 05:26:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <4780BAD8.7050502@sharp.fm> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:26:16 +0200 From: Graham Leggett User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Apache Directory Developers List Subject: Re: [RANT] Stupid configuration and all those idiotic XML References: <4780117C.2050808@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4780117C.2050808@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms050805060607090107030805" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050805060607090107030805 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Emmanuel Lecharny wrote: > Is it *supposed* to help ??? How many insanity like this will we support > before we can work on real stuff, like how to write a serious LDAP > server? Do we have to whip ourselves, crawl on sandpaper, walk on fire > just to be allowed to bring some line of not totally meaningless code, > or is there a way to get rid of all those shitty buzzwords called IOC, > XML, XSD, Spring, Xbean and any of such over rated and over abused so > called 'technologies' ? 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