From dev-return-23370-apmail-directory-dev-archive=directory.apache.org@directory.apache.org Mon Jan 21 15:54:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-directory-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 44347 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2008 15:54:47 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 21 Jan 2008 15:54:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 57564 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jan 2008 15:54:37 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-directory-dev-archive@directory.apache.org Received: (qmail 57517 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jan 2008 15:54:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@directory.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@directory.apache.org Received: (qmail 57506 invoked by uid 99); 21 Jan 2008 15:54:37 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:54:37 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of akarasulu@gmail.com designates 209.85.146.181 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.146.181] (HELO wa-out-1112.google.com) (209.85.146.181) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:54:10 +0000 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m38so4041124waf.5 for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:54:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=eCmZFd42AcCsa/SPROMqpNBH/pyVMT7wKPPV7pCbODU=; b=Lv9FKoVv/GvP3/tEEtrrfq/nFd9ozuyY58+Wpfn/7JweW7nYzfaYBzem7Vv1FJsDGbcyXIM5jpnOxFYF+BNWOrlz+WCFkdU2nRljl7rBIPk7g/akpJHmttqG9DZANpfg4Uu8ZcolelWm434h3nbPWcMfpMC4mnJZgkp/KAnhCes= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=I33U7AtzYJ8nL2E1+2OkDBsSlaB9/hNRp/MFmAuMEgrkwdAXoz+ZlbcjU/1r56/jsnAjm1gvo8NjdAvD7TOJQVlvCbmmkjoHoQJYJwNR0IWdUY2St53jTuwieXvUs6xBKEVn3fovHcuEkFsS0EbIWm1EdhZM8+pLva89uw1RswE= Received: by 10.114.150.1 with SMTP id x1mr5555336wad.145.1200930856599; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:54:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.18.12 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:54:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:54:16 -0500 From: "Alex Karasulu" Sender: akarasulu@gmail.com To: users@directory.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] [Studio] Should we release RC versions of Studio ? (was 'Re: [STUDIO] Next version') Cc: "Apache Directory Developers List" In-Reply-To: <98d8c0860801210705l1dbf3ebehcbdcec1d9768da7a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15859_26226702.1200930856599" References: <98d8c0860801210547q40d35589tb27b974780b412d3@mail.gmail.com> <4794B04E.9040001@apache.org> <98d8c0860801210705l1dbf3ebehcbdcec1d9768da7a@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: dcf96b8540920bab X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ------=_Part_15859_26226702.1200930856599 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline +1 (not on vote but) I think it's important for you guys to figure out what works best for you and your users as Emmanuel put so very well. After all these are the folks the release model is going to be designed for. However thank God for the update site :). Alex On Jan 21, 2008 10:05 AM, Pierre-Arnaud Marcelot wrote: > On Jan 21, 2008 3:46 PM, Felix Knecht wrote: > > > I don't know much about 'Who uses Apache Directory Studio'. > > OOH it doesn't makes a good impression to the user when a bugfix releas= e > > follows immediately after a release, > > OTH do we get some better feedback from the User community when > > releasing an RC first or do users only use released versions? > > > You're totally right. That's a great summup of the situation. > > We have never released any RC so far. We had 3 =DFeta versions before > the 1.0but no RC. > > I should have CCd this thread to our users' list too. Let's fix that and > ask > our users what they prefer too. > > Here's a reminder of the vote: > > Emmanuel L=E9charny was wondering if it would not be a good idea to relea= se > RC > > (Release Candidate) for the upcoming release(s). > > > > [ ] +1 We should release RC versions first, prior to releasing a major > update. > [ ] +/-0 Abstain > [ ] -1 We should not release RC versions first, but the final version > (and, > eventually, release a service update very quickly if some important bugs > are > discovered) > > Regards, > Pierre-Arnaud > ------=_Part_15859_26226702.1200930856599 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline +1 (not on vote but) I think it's important for you guys to figure out = what works best for you and your users as Emmanuel put so very well.  = After all these are the folks the release model is going to be designed for= .  However thank God for the update site :).

Alex

On Jan 21, 2008 10:05 AM, Pi= erre-Arnaud Marcelot <pa@marcelot.net= > wrote:
On Jan 21, 2008 3:46 PM, Felix Knecht <felixk@apache.org> wrote:

> I do= n't know much about 'Who uses Apache Directory Studio'.
>= OOH it doesn't makes a good impression to the user when a bugfix relea= se
> follows immediately after a release,
> OTH do we get some be= tter feedback from the User community when
> releasing an RC first or= do users only use released versions?


You're totally r= ight. That's a great summup of the situation.

We have never released any RC so far. We had 3 =DFeta versions befo= re
the 1.0but no RC.

I should have CCd this thread to our users&#= 39; list too. Let's fix that and ask
our users what they prefer too.

Here's a reminder of the vote:

Emmanuel L=E9charny was w= ondering if it would not be a good idea to release RC
> (Release Cand= idate) for the upcoming release(s).
>

[ = ] +1 We should release RC versions first, prior to releasing a major
update.
[ ] +/-0 Abstain
[ ] -1 We should not release RC versions= first, but the final version (and,
eventually, release a service update= very quickly if some important bugs are
discovered)

Regard= s,
Pierre-Arnaud

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