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From "Stefan Seelmann (JIRA)" <>
Subject [jira] Commented: (DIRSTUDIO-234) Greyed out menu items should have a tool tip explaining *why* they're greyed out
Date Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:10:50 GMT


Stefan Seelmann commented on DIRSTUDIO-234:

Hi Alan, 

thanks for the report.

In general we try to use the schema of the LDAP server to determine which attributes are editable
and which are not. But you are absolutely right, there is no information why an action is

I also thought about the GUI "paradigm", I think there are three ways:
1) Help the user to do only things that are allowed or make sense in a concrete context. The
problem is then that if the schema is not good or if the implementation has bugs the user
can't do what s/he wants to do.
2) Let the user do anything and let the server throw errors back to the client
3) A mix of both: Warn the user in the tool if s/he does an insane action (and say why this
action is insane), but if s/he confirms the action is sent to the server

Currently we use the 1st way. I think the best would be the 3rd. 


> Greyed out menu items should have a tool tip explaining *why* they're greyed out
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                 Key: DIRSTUDIO-234
>                 URL:
>             Project: Directory Studio
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: studio-ldapbrowser
>    Affects Versions: 1.0.1
>         Environment: OSX 10.4
>            Reporter: Alan Batie
> All GUIs should have a tool tip explaining why something is greyed out and what needs
to be done to make it active (and it needs to be *useful* information, not just "it doesn't
apply" or "you're not allowed to do that now" --- it's obvious the *application* thinks that
because it's greyed out).  In this case, I did a search against our ldap server, found an
attribute that needed removing and did so.  Then I did another search.  This time the font
changed to italic, and when I go to delete an attribute, Delete is greyed out.  There is no
clue anywhere as to what's going on.  I searched in help for the ldap browser, and found very

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