Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-directory-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 33334 invoked from network); 25 Sep 2007 18:44:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 25 Sep 2007 18:44:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 31283 invoked by uid 500); 25 Sep 2007 18:43:50 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-directory-dev-archive@directory.apache.org Received: (qmail 31235 invoked by uid 500); 25 Sep 2007 18:43:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@directory.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@directory.apache.org Received: (qmail 31224 invoked by uid 99); 25 Sep 2007 18:43:50 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:43:50 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of chris.custine@gmail.com designates 209.85.132.251 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.132.251] (HELO an-out-0708.google.com) (209.85.132.251) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:43:51 +0000 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c31so272692ana for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:43:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=oIk0nT9MfPcL22PG4tp57U95Hdy5Is+BE4hiSdA65U8=; b=uRUZ7KhXPfyqWgfjptVkGfQHz9efXdAqOfu0ZUYaapcy/Yqdz3KArERIegOjZL552WlumMBO6dV0WJEWlATqVN7vfYXvDEB4H0JVMiO9FE1i+5AeybqWHzImhJwuQkscaT1Utk3hremQaqIxEuiW0VhFp2YNaI5EZ1JOcEmBJbU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=HcIxgGrENNbvxX6toj+XfcT7bSOv/D8sgSCqOzuQtBBs+eObn940U7YZ6HR0DzmQqtOMqZuaaO7KO7PsAnEG3yfK9Eo/uGa2InV+Vlr/wv/I6fiFjzmQwB+ooAQjuovN/GydMJXaAZFaLGd6JG3YXykdEGEu/ln+GHQUejtCm3k= Received: by 10.142.241.10 with SMTP id o10mr1185312wfh.1190745810044; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.101.18 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <43b026c70709251143l43fb6427ve538f6e4c0ff1144@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:43:29 -0600 From: "Chris Custine" Sender: chris.custine@gmail.com To: "Apache Directory Developers List" Subject: Re: [VOTE] Applying large scale changes to 1.5.x branch (trunk) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3287_19413415.1190745809973" References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: c21ddb174f25f1ed X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ------=_Part_3287_19413415.1190745809973 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline [ ] Option #1: Continue making moderate to large scale changes in 1.5 branch which effect standalone and embedding users. [x] Option #2: Create separate branch (2.5) for these kinds of changes while trying to release a 2.0 sooner without a major impact to the user base. [ ] Undecided. On 9/25/07, Alex Karasulu wrote: > > Hi all, > > Looks like we have a few people talking about the pro's and con's of how > to go about making large > scale changes to the server which could effect users and our documentation > effort around user guides > etc. We have two options for this vote and some explanation is given > about each option along with it's > pros and cons so you can better evaluate an option. > > [ ] Option #1: Continue making moderate to large scale changes in 1.5branch which effect standalone > and embedding users. > [ ] Option #2: Create separate branch (2.5) for these kinds of changes > while trying to release a 2.0 sooner > without a major impact to the user base. > [ ] Undecided. > > Pro's and Con's of options listed below. Perhaps others might add more > but we can just rename the > subject perhaps for that and use this thread for just counting votes. > > Alex > > > > Option #1 Pros > ---------------------- > Reduces work of maintaining several branches > Changes go in now rather than later which have to effect users anyway > Gets a 2.0 out quicker but not by much > > Option #1 Cons > ----------------------- > Delays 2.0 release marginally > Increases amount of change on documentation and the site > Forces users to change the server.xml which already happens when moving > from 1.0-> 1.5 > Contradicts our strategy for having stable and experimental branches > > > > ========================== > > > > Option #2 Pros > ----------------------- > Keeps users who are using 1.5 already happy since they have to change > relatively little to move to 2.0 > Less changes to existing documentation although new documentation area > will be needed eventually > Completely free area to introduce dramatic changes (no worries about > users) > Could bring features faster into server to avoid feature deadlock due to > architectural hurdles in 1.5 > > Option #2 Cons > ---------------------- > Yet another branch to manage. > Distracts developers from 1.5 work > > > > ------=_Part_3287_19413415.1190745809973 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline [ ] Option #1: Continue making moderate to large scale changes in 1.5 branch which effect standalone
    and embedding users.
[x] Option #2: Create separate branch (2.5) for these kinds of changes while trying to release a 2.0 sooner
    without a major impact to the user base.
[ ] Undecided.

On 9/25/07, Alex Karasulu <akarasulu@apache.org> wrote:
Hi all,

Looks like we have a few people talking about the pro's and con's of how to go about making large
scale changes to the server which could effect users and our documentation effort around user guides
etc.  We have two options for this vote and some explanation is given about each option along with it's
pros and cons so you can better evaluate an option.

[ ] Option #1: Continue making moderate to large scale changes in 1.5 branch which effect standalone
    and embedding users.
[ ] Option #2: Create separate branch (2.5) for these kinds of changes while trying to release a 2.0 sooner
    without a major impact to the user base.
[ ] Undecided.

Pro's and Con's of options listed below.  Perhaps others might add more but we can just rename the
subject perhaps for that and use this thread for just counting votes.

Alex



Option #1 Pros
----------------------
Reduces work of maintaining several branches
Changes go in now rather than later which have to effect users anyway
Gets a 2.0 out quicker but not by much

Option #1 Cons
-----------------------
Delays 2.0 release marginally
Increases amount of change on documentation and the site
Forces users to change the server.xml which already happens when moving from 1.0-> 1.5
Contradicts our strategy for having stable and experimental branches



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Option #2  Pros
-----------------------
Keeps users who are using 1.5 already happy since they have to change relatively little to move to 2.0
Less changes to existing documentation although new documentation area will be needed eventually
Completely free area to introduce dramatic changes (no worries about users)
Could bring features faster into server to avoid feature deadlock due to architectural hurdles in 1.5

Option #2 Cons
----------------------
Yet another branch to manage.
Distracts developers from 1.5 work




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