Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-directory-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 33860 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2007 19:13:03 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 18 Jul 2007 19:13:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 87237 invoked by uid 500); 18 Jul 2007 19:12:43 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-directory-dev-archive@directory.apache.org Received: (qmail 87199 invoked by uid 500); 18 Jul 2007 19:12:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@directory.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@directory.apache.org Received: (qmail 87150 invoked by uid 99); 18 Jul 2007 19:12:42 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:12:42 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of akarasulu@gmail.com designates 64.233.184.236 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.184.236] (HELO wr-out-0506.google.com) (64.233.184.236) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:12:38 -0700 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 25so282748wry for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:12:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=bZUNFfEnFQV6SrTUyZJaHLl3XYWnrjKZ+ONeBDUqRTMlUsin1myhICHz0B4zD3ZDL1iG6aJe65xSHyESc49PzWgnuNMhpojD/mN5UM61lcya+1G+X/TA/XCWI1WfjmTqoi78TYbK5HjP19TNfMe1CRI70n4pYHF2QkOjAacnhs4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=pBlWOa0qeI63dedYdV1Kq1R74Byv1zXHRrmMjblCK3c53PTOHdQpNSClBUv1c/rm8JZ9rfhCRIKu4Bxe1WTfjcDheJ80SfG/lkZUWJdvZb64l3PyON1D6JNFYxFpA0KV2V5RomBowCMn23vtSqnE94DBEyXayDr60AXgC7eKUOo= Received: by 10.142.153.8 with SMTP id a8mr64843wfe.1184785937530; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.101.21 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:12:17 -0400 From: "Alex Karasulu" Sender: akarasulu@gmail.com To: "Apache Directory Developers List" Subject: Re: [ApacheDS] [CiDIT] Discussion In-Reply-To: <43b026c70707180952v11c42c71ue7e20e0dad035ed9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_124272_2082691.1184785937480" References: <5F70BBD0-BC5F-46D2-B98D-D4CC23AF5C50@yahoo.com> <43b026c70707172036o3d30cd6bi77e918012b96b3a1@mail.gmail.com> <43b026c70707180952v11c42c71ue7e20e0dad035ed9@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7fedbf90f3f81e55 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ------=_Part_124272_2082691.1184785937480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 7/18/07, Chris Custine wrote: > > For what its worth, I think we are all actually talking about the same > thing here, but we have divergent opinions on the implementation. These are > good discussions and hopefully they will bring clarity and consensus. I agree. We're just not communicating as efficiently as we could. There's also a lot of stuff to cache in the head while talking about this stuff. I think we should go forward with aims we can agree on immediately. Like for example removing the initialization code from within the server which uses these configuration beans into builder classes while documenting and communicating our ideas. Also we're going to start to see clear extension points in the server by doing this. It'll be fun. Then we can step back to think of how we can store configuration information in the DIT that is conducive to using this information with Spring or OSGi while still supporting an optional on disk server.xml based override. Let's take it one piece at a time. This initiative will be ongoing as we do many other things. Alex ------=_Part_124272_2082691.1184785937480 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On 7/18/07, Chris Custine <ccustine@apache.org> wrote:
For what its worth, I think we are all actually talking about the same thing here, but we have divergent opinions on the implementation.  These are good discussions and hopefully they will bring clarity and consensus.

I agree. We're just not communicating as efficiently as we could.  There's also
a lot of stuff to cache in the head while talking about this stuff.

I think we should go forward with aims we can agree on immediately.  Like for example
removing the initialization code from within the server which uses these configuration beans
into builder classes while documenting and communicating our ideas.  Also we're going to
start to see clear extension points in the server by doing this.  It'll be fun.

Then we can step back to think of how we can store configuration information in the DIT that
is conducive to using this information with Spring or OSGi while still supporting an optional
on disk server.xml based override.

Let's take it one piece at a time.  This initiative will be ongoing as we do many other things.

Alex


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