directory-dev mailing list archives

Site index · List index
Message view « Date » · « Thread »
Top « Date » · « Thread »
From Ole Ersoy <ole.er...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [jira] Created: (DIRSERVER-950) Server Left in Unstable State
Date Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:44:26 GMT
Ah Man - I was just about to ask you
to run with me on this one.
We could be the Lyrical Directory Server.
Think about the publicity in Open Source Magazine!

Thanks Man - The community definitely outweighs me
"a little".

Cheers,
- Ole





Alex Karasulu wrote:
> All this time I thought you were trying to write sonnets :).  Sorry but 
> I have to agree
> with Emmanuel as well. 
> 
> Alex
> 
> On 5/31/07, *Ole Ersoy* < ole.ersoy@gmail.com 
> <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     OK OK OK - I'll change it - OK :-)
>     Just wanted to make
>     all the "Fans" don't start
>     writing in asking me to change it back :-)
> 
>     Thanks,
>     - Ole
> 
> 
> 
>     Ersin Er wrote:
>      > Definately +1.
>      >
>      > On 5/31/07, David Jencks < david_jencks@yahoo.com
>     <mailto:david_jencks@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>      >> I agree with Emmanuel
>      >>
>      >> david jencks
>      >>
>      >> On May 31, 2007, at 10:43 AM, Ole Ersoy wrote:
>      >>
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> > Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
>      >> >> On 5/31/07, Ole Ersoy <ole.ersoy@gmail.com
>     <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com>> wrote:
>      >> >>> Emmanuel,
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>> I do my best to please you
>      >> >> It's not only about me...
>      >> >
>      >> > Oh yes it is.  You are the
>      >> > only one who has commented on this.
>      >> >
>      >> > This is strictly your preference,
>      >> > unless you get 5 people
>      >> > on the "Entire" mailing list to
>      >> > agree with you.
>      >> >
>      >> > I'm being pretty flexible here.
>      >> >
>      >> > 5/200
>      >> >
>      >> > As a matter of fact I'll attach
>      >> > one of Alex's emails to show
>      >> > you his writing style.
>      >> >
>      >> > Compare that to mine.  Do they
>      >> > look wildly different to you?
>      >> >
>      >> > Be honest.  When was the last time
>      >> > you addressed the list and asked
>      >> > what our email style preferences are?
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> >>> whenever I think it's fair (
>      >> >>> and I realize you have put
>      >> >>> a massive amount of time
>      >> >>> into the server, and I benefit
>      >> >>> a great deal from this)
>      >> >>> but this happens to be my
>      >> >>> preferred writing style.
>      >> >> It's not about what *you* prefer, but how the community is
>     likely to
>      >> >> like it.
>      >> >
>      >> > Precisely.  That's why I issued the Challenge.
>      >> >
>      >> > Just get 5/200 people to agree with you.
>      >> >
>      >> > SNIP
>      >> >
>      >> >> Also be fair : your mails are supposed to please the many who
>     read
>      >> >> them, not the one who writes them ...
>      >> >
>      >> > Right - Back to my previous point.  Are you sure
>      >> > that your preference is the preference of the many?
>      >> >
>      >> > Guys - If you are reading this - Please
>      >> > let me know if you agree with Emmanuel.
>      >> > I'm all for acting in the communities best interest.
>      >> >
>      >> >> Ok, I want it to be clear. You can write the mail using one
>     char per
>      >> >> column, there is nothing we can do about that. Just understand
>      >> >> that at
>      >> >> some point, if you just continue with such mails, they will
>     simply be
>      >> >> ignored. This is where I want to get you : be part of the band,
>      >> >> accept
>      >> >> the common rules, and play with us, or you will be like the poor
>      >> >> lonely child in the playground, simply because you want to
>     play the
>      >> >> game with your own rules. There are no punishments, no bashing,
>      >> >> nothing, just you will feel alone. And that will be a loss
>     for all of
>      >> >> us, because what we are trying to do is to build a community
>     of smart
>      >> >> people. And you are smart.
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> > Right back to the point.  Prove that you are right.
>      >> > It's an open list.  Guys, I really want to act
>      >> > in the communities best interest.  If you agree
>      >> > with Emmanuel, then please speak up.
>      >> >
>      >> >> Be one of us. Just accept that if we have a different
>     opinion, by no
>      >> >> mean it should be seen as a constraint on you that we ask you to
>      >> >> change your habits. It's just a request, for the good of the
>     project.
>      >> >
>      >> > Right - lets make sure that your preference
>      >> > covers 80% of the core contributors though.
>      >> >
>      >> > Thanks,
>      >> > - Ole
>      >> > X-Account-Key: account2
>      >> > Delivered-To: ole.ersoy@gmail.com <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com>
>      >> > Received: by 10.67.19.4 <http://10.67.19.4> with SMTP id
>     w4cs224013ugi;
>      >> >         Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:33:21 -0700 (PDT)
>      >> > Received: by 10.114.151.13 <http://10.114.151.13> with SMTP id
>     y13mr115517wad.1175146400119;
>      >> >         Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:33:20 -0700 (PDT)
>      >> > Return-Path: <dev-return-17025-
>      >> > ole.ersoy=gmail.com@directory.apache.org
>     <mailto:ole.ersoy=gmail.com@directory.apache.org>>
>      >> > Received: from mail.apache.org <http://mail.apache.org>
>     (hermes.apache.org <http://hermes.apache.org> [ 140.211.11.2
>     <http://140.211.11.2>])
>      >> >         by mx.google.com <http://mx.google.com> with SMTP id
>     y11si1009095pod.
>      >> > 2007.03.28.22.33.19;
>      >> >         Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:33:20 -0700 (PDT)
>      >> > Received-SPF: pass (google.com <http://google.com>: domain of
>     dev-return-17025-
>      >> > ole.ersoy=gmail.com@directory.apache.org
>     <mailto:ole.ersoy=gmail.com@directory.apache.org> designates
>     140.211.11.2 <http://140.211.11.2> as
>      >> > permitted sender)
>      >> > DomainKey-Status: good (test mode)
>      >> > Received: (qmail 47172 invoked by uid 500); 29 Mar 2007
>     05:33:26 -0000
>      >> > Mailing-List: contact dev-help@directory.apache.org
>     <mailto:dev-help@directory.apache.org>; run by ezmlm
>      >> > Precedence: bulk
>      >> > List-Help: <mailto: dev-help@directory.apache.org
>     <mailto:dev-help@directory.apache.org>>
>      >> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:dev-unsubscribe@directory.apache.org
>     <mailto:dev-unsubscribe@directory.apache.org>>
>      >> > List-Post: <mailto: dev@directory.apache.org
>     <mailto:dev@directory.apache.org>>
>      >> > List-Id: <dev.directory.apache.org
>     <http://dev.directory.apache.org>>
>      >> > Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List"
>      >> > <dev@directory.apache.org <mailto:dev@directory.apache.org>>
>      >> > Delivered-To: mailing list dev@directory.apache.org
>     <mailto:dev@directory.apache.org>
>      >> > Received: (qmail 47161 invoked by uid 99); 29 Mar 2007
>     05:33:26 -0000
>      >> > Received: from herse.apache.org <http://herse.apache.org>
>     (HELO herse.apache.org <http://herse.apache.org>)
>      >> > (140.211.11.133 <http://140.211.11.133>)
>      >> >     by apache.org <http://apache.org> (qpsmtpd/0.29) with
>     ESMTP; Wed, 28 Mar 2007
>      >> > 22:33:26 -0700
>      >> > X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=10.0
>      >> >       tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS
>      >> > X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org <http://apache.org>
>      >> > Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org
>     <http://herse.apache.org>: domain of akarasulu@gmail.com
>     <mailto:akarasulu@gmail.com>
>      >> > designates 66.249.82.233 <http://66.249.82.233> as permitted
>     sender)
>      >> > Received: from [66.249.82.233 <http://66.249.82.233>] (HELO
>     wx-out-0506.google.com <http://wx-out-0506.google.com>)
>      >> > (66.249.82.233 <http://66.249.82.233>)
>      >> >     by apache.org <http://apache.org> (qpsmtpd/0.29) with
>     ESMTP; Wed, 28 Mar 2007
>      >> > 22:33:17 -0700
>      >> > Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com
>     <http://wx-out-0506.google.com> with SMTP id h31so78674wxd
>      >> >         for <dev@directory.apache.org
>     <mailto:dev@directory.apache.org>>; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:32:56
>      >> > -0700 (PDT)
>      >> > DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed;
>      >> >         d=gmail.com <http://gmail.com>; s=beta;
>      >> >         h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-
>      >> > id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-
>      >> > type:references:x-google-sender-auth;
>      >> >         b=e15PRujCWW6xjvZSo8oKxPYC/
>      >> > 2fuw6mEL8CNLY5AwHmpTplUn5DgmN04qk6fEBGya/
>      >> > RRAaYqjzKZ1FOzeOZpPV2dSPbATXk2alvNKM1VFbG85ObNo1Jegc/
>      >> > BzRFzc4DwHrnWJB8XRsynJGA+tBZfB1Zcrh2IBrs5FuDyaqPtYc4=
>      >> > DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws;
>      >> >         d= gmail.com <http://gmail.com>; s=beta;
>      >> >        
>     h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-
>      >> > to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth;
>      >> >
>      >> >
>     b=oRBm4lDbj2gCMg01i9BMnCTgo4nC259sJhldW0N3bfIv9SpPmXLgycpEn0WBUzPN5TGU
>      >> >
>     RTonNGG9wOKzDC5tuN5L9Fn0yD4y19V8ZoKxTYN35pfLYtdhpZpPDFNn07ltbHjCH6zOGM
>      >> > 12+br9nNwIutPYMaeXkPwXOnzkB4yQomk=
>      >> > Received: by 10.70.32.6 <http://10.70.32.6> with SMTP id
>     f6mr623651wxf.1175146376870;
>      >> >         Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:32:56 -0700 (PDT)
>      >> > Received: by 10.70.78.18 <http://10.70.78.18> with HTTP; Wed,
>     28 Mar 2007 22:32:56 -0700
>      >> > (PDT)
>      >> > Message-ID:
>      >> > <a32f6b020703282232j2db0bfe0rf17aab2bfc35981f@mail.gmail.com
>     <mailto:a32f6b020703282232j2db0bfe0rf17aab2bfc35981f@mail.gmail.com>>
>      >> > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:32:56 -0400
>      >> > From: "Alex Karasulu" <akarasulu@apache.org
>     <mailto:akarasulu@apache.org>>
>      >> > Sender: akarasulu@gmail.com <mailto:akarasulu@gmail.com>
>      >> > To: "Apache Directory Developers List"
>     <dev@directory.apache.org <mailto:dev@directory.apache.org>>
>      >> > Subject: Re: [Schema] How do I write a new ObjectClass to
>     ApacheDS
>      >> > In-Reply-To: <460B1F48.20401@gmail.com
>     <mailto:460B1F48.20401@gmail.com>>
>      >> > MIME-Version: 1.0
>      >> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>      >> >       boundary="----=_Part_19730_26330448.1175146376809"
>      >> > References: <460AC99F.5030600@gmail.com
>     <mailto:460AC99F.5030600@gmail.com>>
>      >>
>      >        <a32f6b020703281737s53a3fb38o1c7d7cf7fbaba4c1@mail.gmail.com
>     <mailto:a32f6b020703281737s53a3fb38o1c7d7cf7fbaba4c1@mail.gmail.com>>
>      >> >        <460B1152.9030207@gmail.com
>     <mailto:460B1152.9030207@gmail.com>>
>      >>
>      >        <a32f6b020703281849o7bc4f3d2odd194151e4aa489@mail.gmail.com
>     <mailto:a32f6b020703281849o7bc4f3d2odd194151e4aa489@mail.gmail.com>>
>      >> >        <460B1F48.20401@gmail.com
>     <mailto:460B1F48.20401@gmail.com>>
>      >> > X-Google-Sender-Auth: df9be979cd896b8d
>      >> > X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org
>     <http://apache.org>
>      >> >
>      >> > ------=_Part_19730_26330448.1175146376809
>      >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>      >> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>      >> > Content-Disposition: inline
>      >> >
>      >> > Ole,
>      >> >
>      >> > On 3/28/07, Ole Ersoy <ole.ersoy@gmail.com
>     <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com>> wrote:
>      >> >
>      >> >> Ahhh - You are still out there - Lucky Dog!
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> > Yeah baby!
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> >> Thanks for wading through all these "Books" while on vacation!
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> > NP.
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> > SNIP ...
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> >> how do I create an ObjectClass on the fly before storing a (Java
>      >> >> Class
>      >> >> instance)?
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> > Ahh that's way easy now.  You're timing is great ... you would
>      >> > never have
>      >> > been
>      >> > able to do this with 1.0 without a restart which blows.
>      >> >
>      >> > Anyways there's a special schema partition: ou=schema.  Under that
>      >> > context
>      >> > are a bunch of schema names like ..
>      >> >
>      >> > cn=nis
>      >> > cn=inetorgperson
>      >> > cn=blah blah blan
>      >> >
>      >> > Under these are container ou's that each store various schema
>      >> > entities for
>      >> > that schema such as attributeTypes, syntaxes, objectClasses
>     etc.  I
>      >> > just
>      >> > realized that if you read that document on the schema subsystem
>      >> > redesign you
>      >> > can save me some typing brotha man :).
>      >> >
>      >> > So basically you can create your own schema object for the
>      >> > namespace.  Then
>      >> > under that schema object create teh containers.  Then create the
>      >> > objects
>      >> > according to that redesign document.
>      >> >
>      >> > You basically create entries with the createSubcontext command and
>      >> > that
>      >> > document tells you what those metadata entries describing schema
>      >> > objects
>      >> > looks like in terms of the attributes they need to contain.  It's
>      >> > pretty
>      >> > simple stuff.  If you create something that is not allowed or
>      >> > incorrect the
>      >> > server will let you know.
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> >> On the wiki here:
>      >> >>
>      >> >> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DIRxSRVx11/Schema
>      >> >> +Subsystem+Redesign
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> > Yeah this is the doco to read.
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> >> It says:
>      >> >> The new design will enable dynamic yet persistent updates to
>     schema
>      >> >> elements within the server.
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> > yep.
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> >> So how do I do it using a JNDI Context?
>      >> >
>      >> >
>      >> > Easy just use JNDI to create objects.  Take a look at the test
>      >> > classes we
>      >> > have in the repository for testing the new dynamic schema
>      >> > capabilities.
>      >> > It's got JNDI code for doing this that you can adapt to your
>      >> > needs.  Here's
>      >> > a link to one:
>      >> >
>      >> >
>     https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/directory/apacheds/trunk/core-unit/
>      >> > src/test/java/org/apache/directory/server/core/schema/
>      >> > MetaObjectClassHandlerITest.java
>      >> >
>      >> > Take a look at the testAddObjectClass() method.  That should have
>      >> > the logic
>      >> > in there that you
>      >> > need to create a new objectClass in a schema in the server.
>      >> >
>      >> > SNIP ...
>      >> >
>      >> > HTH,
>      >> > Alex
>      >> >
>      >> > Alex Karasulu wrote:
>      >> >> Hi Ole,
>      >> >>
>      >> >> On 3/28/07, *Ole Ersoy* <ole.ersoy@gmail.com
>     <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com>
>      >> >> <mailto: ole.ersoy@gmail.com <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com>>>
>     wrote:
>      >> >>
>      >> >>     Hey Alex,
>      >> >>
>      >> >>     Yes - I think we're getting warmer!
>      >> >>
>      >> >>     Here's the thing.  Suppose I want to store an object that has
>      >> >>     String members
>      >> >>
>      >> >>     shoeSize
>      >> >>     weight
>      >> >>     height
>      >> >>     name
>      >> >>
>      >> >>     etc.
>      >> >>
>      >> >>     I probably have name on some ObjectClass already defined in
>      >> >> ApacheDS.
>      >> >>
>      >> >>     However I still want to duplicate name on a completely
>     different
>      >> >>     ObjectClass.
>      >> >>
>      >> >>
>      >> >> No problem.  Really it does not matter; you can create a new
>     xyzName
>      >> >> attribute.  Sometimes that's not so bad.  Now I see that you
>     want to
>      >> >> autogenerate a schema from the Class
>      >> >> metadata and creating the attributes for your objectClass with
>      >> >> namespace qualification might
>      >> >> be a good idea.
>      >> >>
>      >> >>
>      >> >>
>      >> >>     The ObjectClass I want has a 1:1 correspondence with the Java
>      >> >> Class I
>      >> >>     want to store.
>      >> >>     That way a simple convention can be used to store the
>     object,
>      >> >> and no
>      >> >>     configuration file
>      >> >>     or index searching is needed to include a preexisting
>      >> >> ObjectClass that
>      >> >
>      >> >>     has the name attribute on it.
>      >> >>
>      >> >>
>      >> >> Yep I agree (now that I understand your motives more) just
>     create all
>      >> >> the LDAP
>      >> >> metadata you need on the fly to establish the mapping.
>      >> >>
>      >> >>
>      >> >>
>      >> >>     I guess I could create an index with all the LDAP
>      >> >> attributeTypes and
>      >> >>     look to see whether a certain attribute
>      >> >>     already exists, and use it, but I think it's simpler just to
>      >> >> create a
>      >> >>     brand new ObjectClass.
>      >> >>
>      >> >>
>      >> >> Nah don't bother.
>      >> >>
>      >> >>
>      >> >>
>      >> >>     Which leads me to another question.
>      >> >>
>      >> >>     Can ObjectClass names have periods or underscores in them
>      >> >>
>      >> >>     For Instance there's inetOrgPerson?
>      >> >>
>      >> >>     Could it be
>      >> >>     inet.org.person?
>      >> >>
>      >> >>
>      >> >> I think so.
>      >> >>
>      >> >>
>      >> >>
>      >> >>     The reason I ask is because I want to create ObjectClasses on
>      >> >> the fly
>      >> >>     that are namespaced.
>      >> >>
>      >> >>
>      >> >> Gotchya.
>      >> >>
>      >> >> SNIP ...
>      >> >>
>      >> >> Hope fishing was a blast.  I'm sure you're really glad to out
>     of the
>      >> >> Sun, blue clear water,
>      >> >> and cool breeze environment and  be back in front of a monitor.
>      >> >>
>      >> >> Hey I still have a few more days to go :).  It's not over yet.
>      >> >>
>      >> >> Regards,
>      >> >> Alex
>      >> >>
>      >> >> Alex Karasulu wrote:
>      >> >>> Hi Ole,
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>> Looks like you got some good advice already.  Let me just
>     add one
>      >> >>> more
>      >> >>> suggestion
>      >> >>> while you're looking into creating a schema.  Sometimes
>     you'll find
>      >> >>> that the
>      >> >>> attributeTypes and objectClasses you're looking for are already
>      >> >>> defined in published
>      >> >>> schemas.
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>> For example for users you might want to take a look at something
>      >> >>> like
>      >> >>> inetOrgPerson etc.
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>> Second I suppose you're thinking of staying bleeding edge by
>      >> >>> using 1.5
>      >> >>> rather than using
>      >> >>> 1.0.  I'd recommend this.  And if so then merely adding the
>     schema
>      >> >>> description entry for
>      >> >>> the objectClass in the ou=schema partition in the
>     appropriate place
>      >> >>> should work.  The schema
>      >> >>> is dynamic in 1.5 but I guess Emmanuel and Stephan already
>     pointed
>      >> >>> this out.
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>> I will try to back read this thread.  As you can imagine I
>     have a
>      >> >>> lot
>      >> >>> to catch up on since
>      >> >>> I've been on vacation fishing all week :D.  Yeah I don't
>     miss LDAP
>      >> >> he he.
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>> Regards,
>      >> >>> Alex
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>> On 3/28/07, *Ole Ersoy* < ole.ersoy@gmail.com
>     <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com>
>      >> >> <mailto: ole.ersoy@gmail.com <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com>>
>      >> >>> <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com>
>     <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>     Hey Guys,
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>     I'm in the middle of designing the DAS and
>      >> >>>     decided that I can probably make it way more efficient
>      >> >>>     if I create an ObjectClass per Java Class that I want to
>      >> >>> write to
>      >> >>>     ADS.
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>     So how do I programmatically create a ObjectClass and
>     store it
>      >> >>>     in ApacheDS?
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>     Do we have a description somewhere or is this a standard
>     JNDI
>      >> >>> thing?
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>     Here's a little further elaboration on what I want to do
>     for
>      >> >>> those
>      >> >>>     interested.
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>     Keep in mind this is just an example.  The Class User could
>      >> >>> be any
>      >> >>>     java
>      >> >>>     class used in a model.
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>     I have a Java Class >> User
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>     The Class User has String members [firstName, lastName,
>      >> >>> password]
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>     So I want to create a Structural ObjectClass in ApacheDS
>     so that
>      >> >>>     I can add it as an attribute to the DN where a User
>     instance
>      >> >>> will be
>      >> >
>      >> >>>     stored (The java object instance).
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>     If I were doing this in a relational database, I would
>     create a
>      >> >> table
>      >> >>>     definition instead of a ObjectClass.
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>     So I'm looking for something like this:
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>     ObjectClass objectClass =
>     LDAPSchemaFactory.createObjectClass();
>      >> >>>     objectClass.setName ("User");
>      >> >>>     ObjectClassAttribute objectClassAttribute =
>      >> >>>     LDAPSchemaFactory.createObjectClassAttribute ();
>      >> >>>     objectClassAttribute.setName("firstName");
>      >> >>>     objectClassAttribute.setType (LDAP_STRING_ATTRIBUTE_TYPE);
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>     Then I would do something like:
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>     ctx.storeObjectClass(objectClass);
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>     The objectClass can now be assigned as an attribute to
>     an ADS
>      >> >> entry,
>      >> >>>     and if we were to look at all the ObjectClasses in ADS
>     through
>      >> >>>     JXPlorer
>      >> >>>     or LDAP Studio,
>      >> >>>     we would see the User ObjectClass in the list.
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>     Does that make sense?
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>     Thanks,
>      >> >>>     - Ole
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>>
>      >> >>
>      >> >>
>      >> >>
>      >> >
>      >> > ------=_Part_19730_26330448.1175146376809
>      >> > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
>      >> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>      >> > Content-Disposition: inline
>      >> >
>      >> > Ole,<br><br>
>      >> > <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 3/28/07, <b
>      >> > class="gmail_sendername">Ole Ersoy</b> <<a onclick="return
>      >> > top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
>      >> > href="mailto: ole.ersoy@gmail.com <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com>"
>      >> > target="_blank">ole.ersoy@gmail.com
>     <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com></a>
>      >> > > wrote:</span> </div>
>      >> > <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN:
>      >> > 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Ahhh - You are
>      >> > still out there - Lucky Dog!</blockquote>
>      >> > <div></div>
>      >> > <div>Yeah baby!</div>
>      >> > <div><br></div>
>      >> > <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN:
>      >> > 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Thanks for wading
>      >> > through all these "Books" while on vacation!</blockquote>
>      >> > <div></div>
>      >> > <div>NP.</div>
>      >> > <div><br></div>
>      >> > <div>SNIP ...</div>
>      >> > <div></div>
>      >> > <div><br></div>
>      >> > <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN:
>      >> > 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">how do I create an
>      >> > ObjectClass on the fly before storing a (Java
>     Class<br>instance)?</
>      >> > blockquote>
>      >> > <div></div>
>      >> > <div>Ahh that's way easy now. You're timing is
>      >> > great ... you would never have been</div>
>      >> > <div>able to do this with 1.0 without a restart which blows.</div>
>      >> > <div></div>
>      >> > <div>Anyways there's a special schema partition:
>      >> > ou=schema. Under that context are a bunch of schema names
>      >> > like ..</div>
>      >> > <div></div>
>      >> > <div>cn=nis</div>
>      >> > <div>cn=inetorgperson</div>
>      >> > <div>cn=blah blah blan</div>
>      >> > <div></div>
>      >> > <div>Under these are container ou's that each store various
>      >> > schema entities for that schema such as attributeTypes, syntaxes,
>      >> > objectClasses etc. I just realized that if you read that
>      >> > document on the schema subsystem redesign you can save me some
>      >> > typing brotha man :).
>      >> > </div>
>      >> > <div></div>
>      >> > <div>So basically you can create your own schema object for the
>      >> > namespace. Then under that schema object create teh
>      >> > containers. Then create the objects according to that
>      >> > redesign document.</div>
>      >> > <div></div>
>      >> > <div>You basically create entries with the createSubcontext
>     command
>      >> > and that document tells you what those metadata entries describing
>      >> > schema objects looks like in terms of the attributes they need to
>      >> > contain. It's pretty simple stuff. If you create
>      >> > something that is not allowed or incorrect the server will let you
>      >> > know.
>      >> > </div>
>      >> > <div><br></div>
>      >> > <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN:
>      >> > 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">On the wiki
>      >> > here:<br><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
>      >> > href="http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DIRxSRVx11/Schema
>      >> > +Subsystem+Redesign" target="_blank">
>      >> > http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DIRxSRVx11/Schema
>      >> > +Subsystem+Redesign</a></blockquote>
>      >> > <div></div>
>      >> > <div>Yeah this is the doco to read.</div>
>      >> > <div><br></div>
>      >> > <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN:
>      >> > 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">It
>     says:<br>The new
>      >> > design will enable dynamic yet persistent updates to
>      >> > schema<br>elements within the server.
>      >> > </blockquote>
>      >> > <div></div>
>      >> > <div>yep.</div>
>      >> > <div><br></div>
>      >> > <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN:
>      >> > 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">So how do I do it
>      >> > using a JNDI Context?</blockquote>
>      >> > <div></div>
>      >> > <div>Easy just use JNDI to create objects. Take a look at the
>      >> > test classes we have in the repository for testing the new dynamic
>      >> > schema capabilities. It's got JNDI code for doing this
>      >> > that you can adapt to your needs. Here's a link to one:
>      >> > </div>
>      >> > <div></div>
>      >> > <div><a
>     href="https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/directory/apacheds/
>     <https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/directory/apacheds/>
>      >> > trunk/core-unit/src/test/java/org/apache/directory/server/core/
>      >> > schema/MetaObjectClassHandlerITest.java">https://svn.apache.org/
>      >> > repos/asf/directory/apacheds/trunk/core-unit/src/test/java/org/
>      >> >
>     apache/directory/server/core/schema/MetaObjectClassHandlerITest.java
>      >> > </a></div>
>      >> > <div></div>
>      >> > <div>Take a look at thetestAddObjectClass() method.
>      >> > That should have the logic in there that you</div>
>      >> > <div>need to create a new objectClass in a schema in the
>      >> > server.<br></div>
>      >> > <div>SNIP ...</div>
>      >> > <div><br>HTH,</div>
>      >> > <div>Alex<br><br>Alex Karasulu wrote:<br>> Hi
>      >> > Ole,<br>><br>> On 3/28/07, *Ole Ersoy* <<a onclick="return
>      >> > top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
>      >> > href="mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com>"
>     target="_blank"> ole.ersoy@gmail.com <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com>
>      >> > </a><br>> <mailto:<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink
>      >> > (window,event,this)" href="mailto: ole.ersoy@gmail.com
>     <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com>"
>      >> > target="_blank"> ole.ersoy@gmail.com
>     <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com></a>>>
>      >> > wrote:<br>><br>> Hey
>      >> > Alex,<br>><br>> Yes - I think
>      >> > we're getting warmer!
>      >> > <br>><br>> Here's the
>      >> > thing.Suppose I want to store an object that
>      >> > has<br>> String members
>      >> > <br>><br>>
>      >> > shoeSize<br>>
>      >> > weight<br>>
>      >> > height<br>>
>      >> > name<br>><br>> etc.
>      >> > <br>><br>> I probably have name on
>      >> > some ObjectClass already defined in
>      >> > ApacheDS.<br>><br>> However I still
>      >> > want to duplicate name on a completely different
>      >> > <br>> ObjectClass.<br>><br>><br>
>      >> > > No problem.Really it does not matter; you can
>      >> > create a new xyzName<br>> attribute.Sometimes
>      >> > that's not so bad.Now I see that you want
>      >> > to<br>> autogenerate a schema from the Class <br>> metadata
>      >> > and creating the attributes for your objectClass with
>      >> > <br>> namespace qualification might<br>> be a good
>      >> > idea.<br>><br>><br>><br>> The
>      >> > ObjectClass I want has a 1:1 correspondence with the Java Class I
>      >> > <br>> want to
>      >> > store.<br>> That way a simple convention
>      >> > can be used to store the object, and no
>      >> > <br>> configuration
>      >> > file<br>> or index searching is needed
>      >> > to include a preexisting ObjectClass that
>      >> > <br>> has the name attribute on
>      >> > it.<br>><br>><br>> Yep I agree (now that I understand your
>      >> > motives more) just create all
>      >> > <br>> the LDAP<br>> metadata you need on the fly to establish
>      >> > the mapping.<br>>
>      >> > <br>><br>><br>> I guess I could
>      >> > create an index with all the LDAP attributeTypes
>      >> > and<br>> look to see whether a certain
>      >> > attribute
>      >> > <br>> already exists, and use it, but I
>      >> > think it's simpler just to create a
>      >> > <br>> brand new
>      >> > ObjectClass.<br>><br>><br>> Nah don't
>      >> > bother.<br>><br>><br>><br>>
>      >> > Which leads me to another question.
>      >> > <br>><br>> Can ObjectClass names have
>      >> > periods or underscores in them
>      >> > <br>><br>> For Instance there's
>      >> > inetOrgPerson?<br>><br>> Could it
>      >> > be<br>> inet.org.person?
>      >> > <br>><br>><br>> I think so.
>      >> > <br>><br>><br>><br>> The reason
>      >> > I ask is because I want to create ObjectClasses on the fly
>      >> > <br>> that are
>      >> > namespaced.<br>><br>><br>> Gotchya.<br>><br>>
>      >> > SNIP ...<br>><br>> Hope fishing was a
>      >> > blast.I'm sure you're really glad to out of the
>      >> > <br>> Sun, blue clear water,<br>> and cool breeze environment
>      >> > andbe back in front of a monitor. <br>><br>> Hey
>      >> > I still have a few more days to go :).It's not over
>      >> > yet.<br>><br>> Regards,<br>> Alex
>      >> > <br>><br>> Alex Karasulu wrote:<br>> > Hi Ole,<br>>
>      >> > ><br>> > Looks like you got some good advice
>      >> > already.Let me just add one more <br>> >
>      >> > suggestion<br>> > while you're looking into creating a
>      >> > schema.Sometimes you'll find
>      >> > <br>> > that the<br>> > attributeTypes and
>      >> > objectClasses you're looking for are already<br>> >
>      >> > defined in published <br>> > schemas.<br>> ><br>>
>      >> > > For example for users you might want to take a look at
>      >> > something like
>      >> > <br>> > inetOrgPerson etc.<br>> ><br>> > Second I
>      >> > suppose you're thinking of staying bleeding edge by using
>      >> > 1.5<br>> > rather than using<br>> >
>      >> > 1.0.I'd recommend this.And if so then
>      >> > merely adding the schema
>      >> > <br>> > description entry for<br>> > the objectClass in
>      >> > the ou=schema partition in the appropriate place <br>> >
>      >> > should work.The schema<br>> > is dynamic in 1.5
>      >> > but I guess Emmanuel and Stephan already pointed
>      >> > <br>> > this out.<br>> ><br>> > I will try to
>      >> > back read this thread.As you can imagine I have a lot
>      >> > <br>> > to catch up on since<br>> > I've been on
>      >> > vacation fishing all week :D.Yeah I don't miss LDAP
>      >> > <br>> he he.<br>> ><br>> > Regards,<br>> >
>      >> > Alex<br>> ><br>> > On 3/28/07, *Ole Ersoy* < <a
>      >> > onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
>      >> > href="mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com>"
>     target="_blank">
>      >> > ole.ersoy@gmail.com <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com></a><br>>
>     <mailto:<a onclick="return
>      >> > top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
>      >> > href="mailto: ole.ersoy@gmail.com <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com>"
>      >> > target="_blank">ole.ersoy@gmail.com
>     <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com></a>><br>> >
>      >> > <mailto:<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink
>      >> > (window,event,this)" href="mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com
>     <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com>"
>      >> > target="_blank">
>      >> > ole.ersoy@gmail.com <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com>
>     </a><mailto:<a onclick="return
>      >> > top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
>      >> > href="mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com>"
>      >> > target="_blank">ole.ersoy@gmail.com
>     <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com></a>>>> wrote:<br>>
>      >> > ><br>> > Hey Guys,
>      >> > <br>> ><br>> > I'm in the
>      >> > middle of designing the DAS and<br>>
>      >> > > decided that I can probably make it
>      >> > way more efficient <br>> > if I
>      >> > create an ObjectClass per Java Class that I want to write to
>      >> > <br>> > ADS.<br>> ><br>>
>      >> > > So how do I programmatically create a
>      >> > ObjectClass and store it<br>> > in
>      >> > ApacheDS? <br>> ><br>> > Do we
>      >> > have a description somewhere or is this a standard JNDI thing?
>      >> > <br>> ><br>> > Here's a
>      >> > little further elaboration on what I want to do for those<br>>
>      >> > > interested. <br>> ><br>>
>      >> > > Keep in mind this is just an
>      >> > example.The Class User could be any
>      >> > <br>> > java<br>>
>      >> > > class used in a model.<br>>
>      >> > ><br>> > I have a Java Class
>      >> > >> User <br>> ><br>> >
>      >> > The Class User has String members [firstName, lastName, password]
>      >> > <br>> ><br>> > So I want to
>      >> > create a Structural ObjectClass in ApacheDS so that<br>>
>      >> > > I can add it as an attribute to the DN
>      >> > where a User instance will be <br>> >
>      >> > stored (The java object instance).
>      >> > <br>> ><br>> > If I were doing
>      >> > this in a relational database, I would create a<br>>
>      >> > table<br>> > definition instead of a
>      >> > ObjectClass.<br>> > <br>> > So
>      >> > I'm looking for something like this:
>      >> > <br>> ><br>> > ObjectClass
>      >> > objectClass = LDAPSchemaFactory.createObjectClass();<br>>
>      >> > > objectClass.setName
>      >> > ("User");<br>> >
>      >> > ObjectClassAttribute objectClassAttribute = <br>>
>      >> > >
>      >> > LDAPSchemaFactory.createObjectClassAttribute();<br>>
>      >> > > objectClassAttribute.setName
>      >> > ("firstName");<br>> >
>      >> > objectClassAttribute.setType (LDAP_STRING_ATTRIBUTE_TYPE);<br>>
>      >> > > <br>> > Then I would do
>      >> > something like:
>      >> > <br>> ><br>> >
>      >> > ctx.storeObjectClass(objectClass);<br>> ><br>>
>      >> > > The objectClass can now be assigned as
>      >> > an attribute to an ADS<br>> entry, <br>>
>      >> > > and if we were to look at all the
>      >> > ObjectClasses in ADS through
>      >> > <br>> > JXPlorer<br>>
>      >> > > or LDAP Studio,<br>>
>      >> > > we would see the User ObjectClass in
>      >> > the list.<br>> ><br>> > Does
>      >> > that make sense? <br>> ><br>> >
>      >> > Thanks,<br>> > - Ole
>      >> > <br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>>
>      >> > ><br>> ><br>><br>><br>><br><br></div><br>
>      >> >
>      >> > ------=_Part_19730_26330448.1175146376809--
>      >> >
>      >>
>      >>
>      >
>      >
> 
> 

Mime
View raw message