Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-directory-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 4608 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2007 16:28:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 2007 16:28:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 78471 invoked by uid 500); 5 Apr 2007 16:28:12 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-directory-dev-archive@directory.apache.org Received: (qmail 78438 invoked by uid 500); 5 Apr 2007 16:28:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@directory.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@directory.apache.org Received: (qmail 78423 invoked by uid 99); 5 Apr 2007 16:28:12 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 05 Apr 2007 09:28:12 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of identyx@gmail.com designates 66.249.92.172 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.249.92.172] (HELO ug-out-1314.google.com) (66.249.92.172) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 05 Apr 2007 09:28:04 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so1055079ugh for ; Thu, 05 Apr 2007 09:27:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Zv2InyCNzeiNVFq0fWVMQdwgKZkQmZVQUQ5iVZM1NY8MtU+OqyQIwIGv/kmONswk8sjkQcwk7ed9IlUnvCWQ5n72JZt77mHbEE4kaDuTI2JOlK4uDW1zmShzBYU0xuIkzoaLWkuFkyXMV2HkRbg0FmEoA0b6JDnCu8eWhp4ijTc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=OE1jFxoZe595mQjF3FtTawrlE5ryJHn7C/H1iTWlA+DYPoh+i/5WDfAuxM30MKyGG6k28iRqpUpxLII69b3DJiGyIX0IItrW6DRRlHJNijiNV7v8I8AuV2h2VQJ97LDD1afK4IBDGxRZiYNR16NlAi0i3UI7lDVei9Ij0wSRjDs= Received: by 10.82.154.2 with SMTP id b2mr2887093bue.1175790462945; Thu, 05 Apr 2007 09:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.125.13 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 09:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 11:27:42 -0500 From: "Jim Yang" Sender: identyx@gmail.com To: "Apache Directory Developers List" Subject: Re: [Press] We need a minister of propaganda In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 84dd615f385b8da1 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Alex, I'll try to help in regards with #1 and #2. I, recently, blog about LS. Check out http://www.idtopia.com/blog/ One thing we can do is to have all of the committers to create their own blogs and then setup a blog aggregator on directory.apache.org. We can then make the aggregated blogs available as a single RSS feed. Let me know if you help in setting it up at Apache. I am familiar with those tools. Jim On 4/5/07, Alex Karasulu wrote: > Hi all, > > OK I'm joking a bit about the title but we need someone to keep and eye out > and start thinking about how to spread the word about Apache Directory > products. We've got a lot of good stuff here and we don't market our goods. > Other analogous products out there are being plastered all over the place > and many features are publicized when some boast more about vaporware then > existing software. Of course we will do no such thing but marketing what we > do have is a good idea IMHO. > > We're not in the business of competing with others but just about having > fun. However I get a bit irritated when people put down our project. > Someone recently told me that a high level person at SUN involved with > OpenDS said at a major conference that they're going to plow right over us > because we have no marketing behind our product or no roadmap. I wonder why > they made no mention of features instead to be the deciding factor :). The > comments made were something to the effect of we're just having fun building > it: which is true in that respect. The product of a labor of love goes much > further IMO than something you just get paid to do. Anyways it does not > hurt to spread the word about ApacheDS, LS and Triplesec. > > We could post more on various mailing lists, forums like freshmeat/slashdot, > TSS, ldapguru, wikipedia and other sites not to mention blogging about the > features we introduce into these products. I think all of us in the > community have something we can do. No one person can do it alone however > it would be nice to have someone thinking about and feeling out how we are > doing it and keeping tabs on this aspect of our project. We don't really > have this kind of role at Apache however IMO I think it's a shortcoming. > Companies like SUN have dedicated paid personal focused specifically on > these aspects. It's time for the role to emerge here. > > So is anyone interested in volunteering to help us in these capacities? > > (1) keep an eye on the pulse of Apache Directory products out there on the > Internet > (2) prodding us to blog more and spread the word more > (3) coming up with new ideas on how to increase Directory product uptake > (4) making sure every significant release has some press > (5) keep an eye out for new features introduced by other products that will > be worth while in ours > (6) tracking AD product uptake by users and getting their feedback > > Thanks, > Alex > > >