Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-directory-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 5681 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2007 05:40:28 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 29 Mar 2007 05:40:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 54608 invoked by uid 500); 29 Mar 2007 05:40:35 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-directory-dev-archive@directory.apache.org Received: (qmail 54578 invoked by uid 500); 29 Mar 2007 05:40:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@directory.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@directory.apache.org Received: (qmail 54566 invoked by uid 99); 29 Mar 2007 05:40:35 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:40:35 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of akarasulu@gmail.com designates 66.249.82.227 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.249.82.227] (HELO wx-out-0506.google.com) (66.249.82.227) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:40:27 -0700 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h31so79897wxd for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:40:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=MqFzv1irdUMsIBrxExumoGOBdtF3DPMe3nef1m38ajjvuBaqMqiuHzvjzKnWLnOiorBnWWAcWW8K6FAas7bJnIGfRaonZTB1eHXqpODn1pzSEbW+vi3BJKaphAI8oU7PWerIUq7CZYxDogWmiSCKmJzSJtbADAoH+kxWOQYGXhM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=jSXgchSXH2DXlN+EGtj/BFCE5Df8f69svlNY37+TNv3I66MjHAhZwzNOXxYOM2tKXXDlWfNQTDv9sxf/qYxbk7deGxi70+rF0BEYLR2Haf9Kui0U/OtMdLjwGCY1Hj8x07X7LQGRfZf5gb3S8HiRKFHiRLbjLLcg/5Ek9PiCkRY= Received: by 10.70.117.1 with SMTP id p1mr605868wxc.1175146805787; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.78.18 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:40:05 -0400 From: "Alex Karasulu" Sender: akarasulu@gmail.com To: "Apache Directory Developers List" Subject: Re: [RPM Installer] Cygwin Stuff in Start/Stop Shell Script In-Reply-To: <460B242C.6070008@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19778_19803517.1175146805734" References: <46018CE4.5050603@gmail.com> <43b026c70703270921p2a138e61j1e7407b579e53375@mail.gmail.com> <4609FBE1.1000703@gmail.com> <460B242C.6070008@gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6aae62d3124f8b9d X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ------=_Part_19778_19803517.1175146805734 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Ok np you got me screaming uncle :). Let's remove it then if others don't have an issue ... and if need be we can revert and add it. Alex On 3/28/07, Ole Ersoy wrote: > > Hmmm > > The only thing I think is weird about it, is that it sort of implies that > someone could or might want to run it in a Cygwin environment. > > Which sort of implies that we've tested it in a Cygwin environment, > and support that type of configuration. > > Which I think if were going to keep it, we should actually do. > > However this is more work, and given that we have installers for > both OSs,.... > > So I'm thinking 99.9% of users will grab either the *nix installer or > the windoz > installer. Then .1% will grab the *nix and perhaps try to run in a > Cygwin environment. > > Then they may ask for support, and since we have that in there, we > should probably have answers > with respect to how we've tested it. > > And then we would probably ask why don't you just install it straight up > on windoz? > > And half may say Ohhh - There's a windoz installer? > > I think we should leave it out, and then if there's a lot of support > inquiries about running > in Cygwin, put it back and have the supportees help us out with > validating the configuration.... > > And if anyone really really feels strongly about it, then I'll just > shove it back in :-) > > Cheers, > - Ole > > > Alex Karasulu wrote: > > I'd keep the cygwin stuff since it's not going to harm anything. It's > > not much and it's > > pretty standard issue. It's a single block that massages the > > variables once and it's > > done so I don't think it's that much clutter. > > > > But you do have a point about us having different installers for > > windoz verses *nix. > > > > Regards, > > Alex > > > > On 3/28/07, *Ole Ersoy* > > wrote: > > > > Thanks Chris, > > > > I can shove them back in if need be. > > > > I asked Alex just now...If we have *NIX installers and Windows > > installers that let the user run ApacheDS using .bat files, does > > the user > > still need Cygwin? > > > > WDYT? > > > > Thanks, > > - Ole > > > > > > > > Chris Custine wrote: > > > The path vars will definitely not work in Cygwin without those > > > conversions. Its ugly, but lots of projects use the same type of > > > conversions to maintain Cygwin compatibility. > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > On 3/27/07, *Alex Karasulu* < akarasulu@apache.org > > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > > > Yeah this is for windows but if you want the script to work > > in the > > > cygwin environment you're going to need this stuff. > > > > > > Really if you want to chop this stuff out I recommend checking > > > that it still works in cygwin before doing so. Do you have > > > a cygwin environment? > > > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > On 3/21/07, *Ole Ersoy* > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Howdy, > > > > > > In the start/stop script there's this Cygwin stuff: > > > > > > # For Cygwin, ensure paths are in UNIX format before > > anything > > > is touched > > > if $cygwin ; then > > > [ -n "$APACHEDS_HOME" ] && > > > APACHEDS_HOME=`cygpath --unix "$APACHEDS_HOME"` > > > [ -n "$APACHEDS_HOME_LOCAL" ] && > > > APACHEDS_HOME_LOCAL=`cygpath --unix > > "$APACHEDS_HOME_LOCAL"` > > > [ -n "$JAVA_HOME" ] && > > > JAVA_HOME=`cygpath --unix "$JAVA_HOME"` > > > [ -n "$CLASSPATH" ] && > > > CLASSPATH=`cygpath --path --unix "$CLASSPATH"` > > > fi > > > > > > nuke? > > > > > > I think cygwin stuff is just for running on windows right? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > - Ole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------=_Part_19778_19803517.1175146805734 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Ok np you got me screaming uncle :).  Let's remove it then if others don't have an issue ... and if need be we can revert and add it. 
 
Alex

 
On 3/28/07, Ole Ersoy <ole.ersoy@gmail.com> wrote:
Hmmm

The only thing I think is weird about it, is that it sort of implies that
someone could or might want to run it in a Cygwin environment.

Which sort of implies that we've tested it in a Cygwin environment,
and support that type of configuration.

Which I think if were going to keep it, we should actually do.

However this is more work, and given that we have installers for
both OSs,....

So I'm thinking 99.9% of users will grab either the *nix installer or
the windoz
installer.  Then .1% will grab the *nix and perhaps try to run in a
Cygwin environment.

Then they may ask for support, and since we have that in there, we
should probably have answers
with respect to how we've tested it.

And then we would probably ask why don't you just install it straight up
on windoz?

And half may say Ohhh - There's a windoz installer?

I think we should leave it out, and then if there's a lot of support
inquiries about running
in Cygwin, put it back and have the supportees help us out with
validating the configuration....

And if anyone really really feels strongly about it, then I'll just
shove it back in :-)

Cheers,
- Ole


Alex Karasulu wrote:
> I'd keep the cygwin stuff since it's not going to harm anything.  It's
> not much and it's
> pretty standard issue.  It's a single block that massages the
> variables once and it's
> done so I don't think it's that much clutter.
>
> But you do have a point about us having different installers for
> windoz verses *nix.
>
> Regards,
> Alex
>
> On 3/28/07, *Ole Ersoy* <ole.ersoy@gmail.com
> <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Thanks Chris,
>
>     I can shove them back in if need be.
>
>     I asked Alex just now...If we have *NIX installers and Windows
>     installers that let the user run ApacheDS using .bat files, does
>     the user
>     still need Cygwin?
>
>     WDYT?
>
>     Thanks,
>     - Ole
>
>
>
>     Chris Custine wrote:
>     > The path vars will definitely not work in Cygwin without those
>     > conversions.  Its ugly, but lots of projects use the same type of
>     > conversions to maintain Cygwin compatibility.
>     >
>     > Chris
>     >
>     > On 3/27/07, *Alex Karasulu* < akarasulu@apache.org
>     <mailto:akarasulu@apache.org>
>     > <mailto:akarasulu@apache.org <mailto:akarasulu@apache.org>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Yeah this is for windows but if you want the script to work
>     in the
>     >     cygwin environment you're going to need this stuff.
>     >
>     >     Really if you want to chop this stuff out I recommend checking
>     >     that it still works in cygwin before doing so.  Do you have
>     >     a cygwin environment?
>     >
>     >     Alex
>     >
>     >
>     >     On 3/21/07, *Ole Ersoy* <ole.ersoy@gmail.com
>     <mailto: ole.ersoy@gmail.com>
>     >     <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com <mailto:ole.ersoy@gmail.com>> >
>     wrote:
>     >
>     >         Howdy,
>     >
>     >         In the start/stop script there's this Cygwin stuff:
>     >
>     >         # For Cygwin, ensure paths are in UNIX format before
>     anything
>     >         is touched
>     >         if $cygwin ; then
>     >         [ -n "$APACHEDS_HOME" ] &&
>     >            APACHEDS_HOME=`cygpath --unix "$APACHEDS_HOME"`
>     >         [ -n "$APACHEDS_HOME_LOCAL" ] &&
>     >            APACHEDS_HOME_LOCAL=`cygpath --unix
>     "$APACHEDS_HOME_LOCAL"`
>     >         [ -n "$JAVA_HOME" ] &&
>     >            JAVA_HOME=`cygpath --unix "$JAVA_HOME"`
>     >         [ -n "$CLASSPATH" ] &&
>     >            CLASSPATH=`cygpath --path --unix "$CLASSPATH"`
>     >         fi
>     >
>     >         nuke?
>     >
>     >         I think cygwin stuff is just for running on windows right?
>     >
>     >         Thanks,
>     >         - Ole
>     >
>     >
>     >
>
>


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