Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-directory-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 15430 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2007 14:20:35 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 17 Jan 2007 14:20:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 53340 invoked by uid 500); 17 Jan 2007 14:20:41 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-directory-dev-archive@directory.apache.org Received: (qmail 53291 invoked by uid 500); 17 Jan 2007 14:20:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@directory.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@directory.apache.org Received: (qmail 53268 invoked by uid 99); 17 Jan 2007 14:20:41 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 06:20:41 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=10.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of akarasulu@gmail.com designates 66.249.82.231 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.249.82.231] (HELO wx-out-0506.google.com) (66.249.82.231) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 06:20:29 -0800 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h31so2507826wxd for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 06:20:09 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:sender; b=LDZH1weFYuSJ2rng34qjXdQ9YqRiDRBrAizQZWl5xu7ZQQ03htLdl7ldwG1fSax7iyOuWqgsv565D02ME6jrC3eyM2ZNifFWx2lvPDyhmQhRXf4pasxQprVoDWWoTixii2t4zWSIzreQw6/eeJ6ynfFbBAv1orBz4f3bdHi97t4= Received: by 10.90.118.12 with SMTP id q12mr6119809agc.1169043609262; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 06:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?172.16.1.7? ( [65.80.200.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 44sm13407031wri.2007.01.17.06.20.06; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 06:20:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45AE30E9.20909@apache.org> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:21:29 -0500 From: Alex Karasulu Reply-To: akarasulu@apache.org Organization: Apache Software Foundation User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Apache Directory Developers List , rbowen@apache.org, planners-2007-eu@ApacheCon.Com Subject: Re: ApacheCon EU 2007 CFP References: <568753d90701161727xa6c6597y6b886c3d6c43c3fb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <568753d90701161727xa6c6597y6b886c3d6c43c3fb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040402040801060400030808" Sender: Alex Karasulu X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040402040801060400030808 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd like to support you on this since I personally like your work and the topics sound really interesting but as PMC chair I have two *BIG* problems with this: (1) You've been MIA and don't support your code when it comes to Java docs, external docs, test cases or community. We have had several users that post to the ML asking about things that no one can respond to. You think you're job is to just dump code here and everyone else is responsible for cleaning it up and making sure the build, doco and site is working. Your behavior with respect to this community essentially reeks of a prima donna. You might consider becoming a team player before asking the team for supporting presentations on topics you've made it impossible for us to support. This leads to point 2 ... (2) You seem to consistently misunderstand that at Apache we're not about technology but rather about community. I do admit that these are interesting topics technically and I would love to overlook your community faults and just engage you pleasantly on these topics. However you have not discussed any of these topics or these capabilities on this mailing list. We integrated the Kerberos code base and you came on to the PMC but all your actions with respect to sharing and being involved with the community are antithetical to that role. Now you're doing presentations on features and functionality at ApacheCon that cannot really be supported by this community. Yes no one knows about this stuff because you never engaged us about any of it on this mailing list. What will happen when people see your presentation and post to our mailing list and no one is capable of supporting them? You consistently don't think of these things which is the responsibility of a PMC member. Having a solid community that users and developers can rely on is the key to the health and survival of an Apache project. By doing these presentations at ApacheCon you're advertising features that you've added (or plan to add) without consulting the community and this does everyone on this project a disservice. You're putting us in a tough spot so you can goto Amsterdam and have a nice presentation at the expense of our community. This is something we all don't appreciate. Alex Enrique Rodriguez wrote: > Hi, Directory developers, > > Today is the CFP for ApacheCon EU 2007. The CFP site accepted my > submissions, so I don't think I missed the cut-off! Anyway, both of > my talks have to do with Directory-backed authentication: (AD1853) is > the Kerberos talk I've given a couple times and (AD1854) basically > replaces Kerberos with CardSpace technologies (WS-Trust, WS-Mex, and > SAML). So, if either or both talks interest you and you have CFP > website access, then I would appreciate the support. Log in and > there's a link to "Rate the session proposals." My abstracts are > below. > > Enrique > > AD1853 > Title: Secure Single-Sign-On with Apache Directory and Apache Kerberos > > Abstract: The lead developer of the Kerberos protocol provider for > the Apache Directory will discuss the use of Apache Directory as a > "realm controller" for Linux and Windows machines. This talk will > provide an overview of the Kerberos and Change Password protocol > workflow. Significant time will be spent on the configuration of trust > relationships and the configuration of both Linux and Windows machines > to use Apache Directory as a Key Distribution Center (KDC). Hint: > those attending this session should be interested in network > authentication ("single-sign-on") using Kerberos realms. Prior > experience with Kerberos is recommended. > > AD1854 > Title: Using Apache Directory as an Identity Provider STS for CardSpace > > Abstract: A member of the Apache Directory PMC will discuss the use > of Apache Directory as a CardSpace Identity Provider "Security Token > Service" (STS) for cross-platform web authentication. This talk will > introduce CardSpace and discuss the basics of the Subject, Relying > Party, and Identity Provider roles. Significant time will be spent on > live demonstrations of an Identity Provider provisioning Managed Cards > online and validating one-time password (OTP) tokens based on open > standards (OATH). > --------------040402040801060400030808 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="akarasulu.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="akarasulu.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Alex Karasulu n:Karasulu;Alex org:Apache Software Foundation;Apache Directory adr:;;1005 N. 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