Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-directory-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 82426 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2006 18:12:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 22 Nov 2006 18:12:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 85784 invoked by uid 500); 22 Nov 2006 18:12:19 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-directory-dev-archive@directory.apache.org Received: (qmail 85585 invoked by uid 500); 22 Nov 2006 18:12:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@directory.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@directory.apache.org Received: (qmail 85565 invoked by uid 99); 22 Nov 2006 18:12:18 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:12:18 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of elecharny@gmail.com designates 64.233.162.196 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.162.196] (HELO nz-out-0102.google.com) (64.233.162.196) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:12:06 -0800 Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i28so159424nzi for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:11:45 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=OKtD/xL+E23/C9f9U9l3xpbgMOTptpuF8ce/t5R+UI3xexdiEh0Ts2BzQ783sVwaBeljzaRrntTu/b+uMVhh6SIjkvPapGZoo6Me5ityjWaVTclRxIJra6BzvyZaAWU5jYbQ2rYKaPrwpbfJHGgKE5cK4oxlzrU3K9hKTL6VvDw= Received: by 10.64.184.14 with SMTP id h14mr12920680qbf.1164219104760; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:11:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.95.11 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:11:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:11:44 +0100 From: "Emmanuel Lecharny" Reply-To: elecharny@apache.org To: "Apache Directory Developers List" Subject: Re: Doxia In-Reply-To: <415529.72394.qm@web60725.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_66816_26896538.1164219104569" References: <415529.72394.qm@web60725.mail.yahoo.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ------=_Part_66816_26896538.1164219104569 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 11/22/06, Ole Ersoy wrote: > > Yeah - Actually - That should be really easy to fix. > > We need a "quality controlled" Maven Repository that > we ourselves populate and update. ohhhh yes ! So if something gets updated on the Maven project, > we're insulated from it. like if Maven was a bad virus :) Actually we don't care if something gets updated, > unless we have a bug that we know about and that we > need fixed. We should care a *lot* : this is what configuration management is all about ! We want to guarantee that the version x.y.z that use the plugin version A;B;C will still use this plugin version in 2 years. Then we pull the update and place it in > our repository. > > So we need to: > > Create the Repository YESSSSS ! Host it (Alex? Da Haus?) The best solution would be to have a local file system based repo (but maven does not support it). Otherwize, I have a server on which we can put the repo, and das haus could be another one, and people.apache.org is another solution I guess I could host it as well as a backup....I'm > doing a controlled repository anyways... > > Reconfigure our Maven instances. > > Probably create our own maven installation, so that > future contributers get a Maven install that works > specifically for ADS. Not sure to get what yyou mean. And provide an additional configuration tutorial in > case they already have Maven... "they" =3D who ? --- Emmanuel Lecharny wrote: > > > On 11/22/06, Ole Ersoy wrote: > > > > > > Hey Guys, > > > > > > Maven has a project called Doxia. There's no doco > > > yet... > > > > > > No kidding ;) This is a maven project, buddy :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hey, so far, we have serious maven problems, like > > some plugins have been > > updated and fucked up the build. > > > > I would say I'm pretty pissed off, because it's not > > the first time. I just > > consider that, so far, maven is definitively making > > me loosing a hell of > > time for *nothing*. > > > > And i'm not alone in this situation. > > > > > > So, I would say one thing : unless we have fixed all > > the maven iussue that > > we do have, and make it solid rock and reliable, I > > would say -1 to any more > > plugins. And I'm very close to say +1 to ant and > > ivy, if it wasn't a big > > loss of time. > > > > But at a point, it may worth the time... > > > > Just make maven work like ant does, this is what we > > need now. Is taht so > > complicated ? 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On 11/22/06, Ole Ersoy <ole_ersoy= @yahoo.com> wrote:
Yeah - Actually - That should be really easy to fix.

We need a "= ;quality controlled" Maven Repository that
we ourselves populate an= d update.

ohhhh yes !

So if something gets updated on the Maven project,
we're insulated from = it.

like if Maven was a bad virus :)
 

Actually we don't care if something gets updated,
unless we have a bug t= hat we know about and that we
need fixed.  
<= br>We should care a *lot* : this is what configuration management is all ab= out ! We want to guarantee that the version=20 x.y.z that use the plugin version A;B;C will still use this plugin version = in 2 years.

Then we pull the update and place it in
our repository.

So we nee= d to:

Create the Repository


YESSSSS !
<= /div>
Host it (Alex? Da Haus?)

The best solution would be to=   have a local file system based repo (but maven does not support it).= Otherwize, I have a server on which we can put the repo, and das haus coul= d be another one, and=20 people.apache.org is another solut= ion

I guess I could host it as well as a backup....I'm
doing a controlled repository anyways...

Reconfigure our Maven i= nstances.

Probably create our own maven installation, so that
fut= ure contributers get a Maven install that works
specifically for ADS.

Not sure to get what yyou mean.

And provide an additiona= l configuration tutorial in
case they already have Maven...

"they" = =3D who ?

--- Emmanuel Lecharny <elecharny@= gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11/22/06, Ole Ersoy <ole_ersoy@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Guys,
> >
> > Maven has a project calle= d Doxia.  There's no doco
> > yet...
>
>
= > No kidding ;) This is a maven project, buddy :)
>
>
>= ; </snip>
>
>
>
> <rant>
>
> hey, so far, = we have serious maven problems, like
> some plugins have been
>= updated and fucked up the build.
>
> I would say I'm pretty pi= ssed off, because it's not
> the first time. I just
> consider that, so far, maven is def= initively making
> me loosing a hell of
> time for *nothing*.>
> And i'm not alone in this situation.
>
>
> So, I would say one thing : unless we have fixed all
> the maven= iussue that
> we do have, and make it solid rock and reliable, I
= > would say -1 to any more
> plugins. And I'm very close to say +1= to ant and
> ivy, if it wasn't a big
> loss of time.
>
> But = at a point, it may worth the time...
>
> Just make maven work l= ike ant does, this is what we
> need now. Is taht so
> complica= ted ? (not talking about continuum which is
> just a joke)
> </rant>
>
> --
> Cord= ialement,
> Emmanuel L=E9charny
>




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