Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-directory-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 98037 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2006 05:06:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 23 Jan 2006 05:06:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 93335 invoked by uid 500); 23 Jan 2006 05:06:33 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-directory-dev-archive@directory.apache.org Received: (qmail 93102 invoked by uid 500); 23 Jan 2006 05:06:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@directory.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@directory.apache.org Received: (qmail 93091 invoked by uid 99); 23 Jan 2006 05:06:32 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:06:32 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of trustin@gmail.com designates 66.249.92.204 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.249.92.204] (HELO uproxy.gmail.com) (66.249.92.204) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:06:29 -0800 Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s2so626362uge for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:06:07 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=D/8sSU0X0AVICIXlAeLdc6iSg/L6o4GYMZlISdHIv/NRvmBlNzB67dugVieds7nDFqe0g/LU09jQ83BgoD3S0VfuYK8RvO76HYlJmc2ThKSirBt74Xq7e/Syy07AYekuRsw7CtiL3YEKQnkhU3W0VjgPhD4pkEfhPdQNKNHHVmE= Received: by 10.48.216.2 with SMTP id o2mr302150nfg; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:06:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.19.20 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:06:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <768dcb2e0601222106h3f7197d2n@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:06:07 +0900 From: Trustin Lee To: Apache Directory Developers List Subject: Re: [mina] Introducing the New API for 0.9.1. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14196_20290941.1137992767632" References: <86CCC348-CC61-484A-B1F2-62B3B320FDB2@apache.org> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N ------=_Part_14196_20290941.1137992767632 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline 2006/1/23, Noel J. Bergman : > > Peter, > > > The changes look like they help simplify usage of MINA in simple > > scenarios.. the examples are certainly much simpler, but for users > > that might have a more complex integration, they seem to be somewhat > > of a step backwards > > I haven't looked at the code, but having seen the dialog so far, you > certainly make a strong case for vetoing the changes until your concerns > are resolved. > > Perhaps a set of convenience classes for MINA would address ease of use > without sacrificing more advanced use. Sure. We do our best to fulfill the needs of various users as usual. This API is not a final version but a draft. The final shape we will get with MINA 1.0.0 will satisfy as many users as possible. Thank you, Trustin -- what we call human nature is actually human habit -- http://gleamynode.net/ PGP Key ID: 0x854B996C ------=_Part_14196_20290941.1137992767632 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline 2006/1/23, Noel J. Bergman <noel@dev= tech.com>:
Peter,

> The changes look like they help simplify usage of MINA i= n simple
> scenarios.. the examples are certainly much simpler, but f= or users
> that might have a more complex integration, they seem to b= e somewhat
> of a step backwards

I haven't looked at the code, but havin= g seen the dialog so far, you
certainly make a strong case for vetoing t= he changes until your concerns
are resolved.

Perhaps a set of con= venience classes for MINA would address ease of use
without sacrificing more advanced use.

Sure. = We do our best to fulfill the needs of various users as usual.  This = API is not a final version but a draft.  The final shape we will get w= ith MINA 1.0.0 will satisfy as many users as possible.

Thank you,
Trustin
=
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