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From Brett Porter <>
Subject Re: Yall need your own list
Date Wed, 16 Nov 2005 02:14:53 GMT
How about SSH and FTP?

The reason I ask...

I was thinking a good way to start growing would be to look within
Apache for people who you could work with, beyond those already
involved from Directory. commons-net and commons-httpclient spring to
mind, as does the incubating FTPServer.

Your mention of XML-HTTP and SOAP widens that a whole lot too :)

For SSH, we currently depend on Jsch on the client side pretty
heavily. It's BSD licensed, but from what I can tell there are not
many developers on it (maybe just 1) and there is no server side
offering which would be really handy. If it makes sense, I know of
others who'd be interested in collaborating on that including myself,
though interested != has available time, of course :(

Just some additional thoughts.


On 11/16/05, Trustin Lee <> wrote:
> Hello Stephane,
> 2005/11/16, Stephane Bailliez <>:
> > I agree with Brett that a TLP might be a bit premature. If going out it
> > would be fine to me under the commons umbrella for example.
> I know that you mentioned commons umbrella just 'for example', but I'd like
> to talk about the vision of MINA project a little bit here.
> MINA is just a network application framework for now, but I don't think it
> will be forever.  My aim is to make MINA a full featured network application
> platform which features:
> * Visual protocol designer based on various encodings such as ASN.1
> * Unified administrative view based on JMX and web that all MINA application
> will get administrative benifit from
> * High-performance server implementations (both standalone and embedded) for
> popular protocols based on MINA
> ** HTTP
> ** SMTP
> ** NFS / CIFS
> ** DNS
> ** NTP
> * Integration with existing communication technologies:
> ** SOAP
> So going under commons umbrella is like moving to another Directory project
> IMHO because MINA won't fit well with commons eventually.
> > Fact is that as of now, Trustin is to MINA what Brett is to Maven
> > (without the situation to be really comparable due to past history), but
> > to me this is the same, it is clear that without them, their respective
> > project will fall to a more than noticeable halt and users will be left
> > in the dark for some time until someone steps up.
> >
> > But it would be better I think to have MINA mail traffic outside
> Directory.
> > And it's a first step for the project as well.
> You're right, and I already mentioned about our community plan here:
> Cheers,
> Trustin
> --
> what we call human nature is actually human habit
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