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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 16:41:10 -0400
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Subject: Re: [apacheds] Which logging framework?
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From: Enrique Rodriguez <enriquer9@gmail.com>

Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>>The JCL team has been invited to discuss each and every
>>item specifically on http://www.qos.ch/logging/classloader.jsp
> 
> And they have.  And there is work.  The JCL traffic has been quite
> significant ever since the WebSphere folks popped up.

Sadly, there's no runtime that can interpret mailing list traffic.

> IIRC, not too long ago, Ceki was pushing for Logging Services to take over
> Commons Logging and replace it with his UGLI, which he later renamed and
> moved away from the ASF ... renaming it "SLF4J".
> 
>  ref: http://logging.apache.org/log4j/docs/ugli.html
> 
> The threads are in the archives.  To quote one sane person: "it would be
> great if someone could find a way through the politics and history."  In the
> meantime, we should deal with real technical issues, and not FUD.
> 
> We can start with SLF4J if that's what everyone wants, and just do a global
> search and replace to use commons logging later, once the new release is
> ready.

Or, more accurately, we'll vote on the logging framework to use now and 
possibly, in the future, someone will call a vote when something better 
comes along.  Nice to see the Apache democratic process at work, despite 
the filibuster.

Enrique