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From Marc Boorshtein <>
Subject Re: [apacheds] Which logging framework?
Date Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:56:13 GMT
doesn't commons logging do just that?  let you easily migrate between
log4j & built in logging?


On 6/27/05, Chris Betts <> wrote:
> Hi All,
> I've just finished converting JXplorer to use the built in java logging
> framework.  It is basically a cheap rip off of log4j and isn't as good (IMHO
> :-) ) so the only reason to use it is because it's 'built in'.  Refactoring
> from the java.util.logging to log4j is pretty easy if you change your mind
> down the track, btw., but going the other way is a little more work because
> log4j does some tricks that java.util.logging doesn't.
> I used the built in stuff for JXplorer because it means you can reuse the
> classes in other projects more easily - you don't have to worry about adding
> the log4j jar.  There's a bunch of utility classes in JX that I and others
> want to use in other projects.  However if you're not so concerned about
> code reuse, log4j is better.  And log4j is an apache project now, so it's
> not even '3rd party' :-).
>    - Chris
> P.S.  For people who are really in to this stuff, the two logging systems
> are close enough in spirit that you can probably map between the two types
> of configuration files - as far as I can see java.util.logging is a subset
> of log4j.  This could conceivably be useful in shops that are already wedded
> to one system or the other.  Implementation is left as an exercise for the
> student :-).
> On 28/06/2005, at 10:26 AM, Trustin Lee wrote:
> Hi folks, 
> As you know JDK 1.4 provides logging framework out of the box.  Will we have
> to use this default package, or use 3rd party ones like Log4J?  We're more
> familiar with Log4J than we're with JDK logging framework, but I think it
> would be also a good idea to use the default one because it is always there
> as long as we work with JDK 1.4+ and it is not bad actually IMHO. 
> Trustin 
> -- 
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