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From Brennan Stehling <>
Subject Re: Do we want to jump to JDK 1.5 (was: Re: [GUMP@brutus]: Project mina (in module mina) failed)
Date Tue, 08 Mar 2005 21:33:57 GMT
I feel that an initial setup without an upgrade requirement would be
helpful for anyone who is trying Apache DS for the first time.  It
will allow them to try it out without added work.

If they are trying it for use in a corporate environment they will
need to be able to set up a quick and dirty demo with their current
environment to show to the suits.  It does not have to be totally
secure if they are just using mock user accounts for testing and we
could stress that in the setup instructions.

Once they realize the benefits of Apache DS they will have reason to
do the upgrade to JRE 1.5.


On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 16:23:00 -0500, Alex Karasulu <> wrote:
> David Boreham wrote:
> >
> >
> >> If this is correct, it still sounds best to me that we attempt to
> >> modularise that support so that it can run on 1.4 without SSL
> >> support, or run on 5.0 with SSL support turned on.
> >
> >
> > Well yes. But an LDAP server without SSL is
> > of quite limited use in production.
> I have a feeling those using it in prod will use it with jdk 1.5 if they
> can do that at all.
> Oh and btw answering your previous question yes using SSL in 1.4 can be
> done but you loose all the gains from NIO.  This is not a good idea with
> a statefull protocol.  Just think we'll need a thread per client to
> track SSL IO rather than using a selector in NIO.  This will make the
> server terribly inefficient as we increase the number of concurrent
> connections.  Without NIO stateful protocols don't have a chance in Java
> land.
> However it should be fine when concurrency is low.  I'd hate to butcher
> MINA just for 1.4 compat and SSL.  Regardless its worth inquiring.
> Trustin do you think there is a way this can be done without creating a
> mess or a massive effort?
> Alex

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