Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-directory-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 56640 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2004 22:29:30 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 30 Dec 2004 22:29:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 10123 invoked by uid 500); 30 Dec 2004 22:29:27 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-directory-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 9935 invoked by uid 500); 30 Dec 2004 22:29:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact directory-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list directory-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 9908 invoked by uid 99); 30 Dec 2004 22:29:26 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from fed1rmmtao10.cox.net (HELO fed1rmmtao10.cox.net) (68.230.241.29) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:29:23 -0800 Received: from [192.168.0.100] (really [68.4.71.218]) by fed1rmmtao10.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP id <20041230222919.EEBE7026.fed1rmmtao10.cox.net@[192.168.0.100]>; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 17:29:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: <41D181C8.1010601@bellsouth.net> References: <41D05575.6030506@bellsouth.net> <79C2B42F-5852-11D9-B3AF-000D93324AD6@gbiv.com> <41D0DE0A.7030300@bellsouth.net> <200412281407.22869.niclas@hedhman.org> <41D181C8.1010601@bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <3F76E7C2-5AB2-11D9-B3AF-000D93324AD6@gbiv.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: legal-internal@apache.org, Apache Directory Developers List From: Roy T. Fielding Subject: Re: [VOTE] Directory project releases Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:29:19 -0800 To: general@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > Niclas Hedhman wrote: >> Janus is "God of Gates and Doorways" and a moon of Saturn was named >> after him in 1966. >> http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/profile.cfm?Object=Sat_Janus >> >> The sited web page is about arbitration of a domain name and to >> regain control of such domain name. Janus Capital Group does not seem >> to go after every use of Janus, so it is not a matter of trademark >> issue; >> http://www.janus-software.com/ >> http://www-odp.tamu.edu/database/ >> http://www.janus-eu.org/Temp2/index-f.htm >> http://www.janusassociates.com/ >> http://www.janusdevelopment.com/ No, that is not how trademark law works. It doesn't matter how common the name may be -- what matters is whether the name is distinctive within a given category of use (keeping in mind that these folks are on the Internet as well) such that they may have grounds for filing suit on the basis of us confusing their consumers. I didn't say that they would need to win that suit. My point was that the Janus name, like those of all Greek/Roman gods, is already being used by a dozen or so software projects, including some open source ones, in addition to there being a wealthy litigation firm concerned about use of the name on the Internet. Using Janus as a name for a new product is therefore unwise. ....Roy