Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-directory-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 11085 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2004 16:09:24 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 22 Nov 2004 16:09:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 77905 invoked by uid 500); 22 Nov 2004 16:09:04 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-directory-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 77804 invoked by uid 500); 22 Nov 2004 16:09:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact directory-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list directory-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 77532 invoked by uid 99); 22 Nov 2004 16:09:01 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [216.40.203.202] (HELO ensim1.25oz.com) (216.40.203.202) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:08:57 -0800 Received: from [192.168.0.52] ([66.208.12.130]) (authenticated bits=0) by ensim1.25oz.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iAMGWNsG011762 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:32:28 -0500 Message-ID: <41A20F18.4030309@d-haven.org> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 11:08:56 -0500 From: Berin Loritsch User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Apache Directory Developers List Subject: Re: To release or not to release? References: <41A20D69.4020607@bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: <41A20D69.4020607@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Release early, release often. Its best to find where the practical wrinkles are rather than guessing. Making regular releases will force the team to make that process as smooth as possible. Alex Karasulu wrote: > Hi all, > > After a few conversations with some peeps at A/C I've come to the > conclusion that we should shoot for a release even though we are still > under incubation. Why? Because I think this will push us to do > things like: > > o clean up the build, > o update documents and site, > o fix critical bugs, o get JIRA in order, > o get everything building with gump, > o tag things in subversion so new development can progress > > It will also help us see how many active people we have on this team. > I'm seeing more an more of use being active and I think we're reaching > critical mass. A release will help us see just how well we can band > together to get some serious work done and who will come out of the > wood work to help with that. > > Keep in mind we may have to try over and over again to get a release > of some kind out the door. It may take a while. We may even graduate > incubator before this happens - who knows? All I'm saying is this is > a good way to test our selves. However there are areas where we will > be branching before this for new experimental changes like what > Trustin would like to do with SEDA and Alan and I would like to do > with Snickers. > > Thoughts? > > Alex > -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rich Cook