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From "Stephen McConnell" <>
Subject RE: [seda] API & IMPL project/jar consolidation
Date Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:50:04 GMT

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Karasulu []
> Sent: 20 September 2004 17:07
> To: Apache Directory Developers List
> Subject: RE: [seda] API & IMPL project/jar consolidation
> Hi,
> Most of my comments are in line.  However before going further I just
> wanted to say that I asked Stephen to show, really show where I was
> messing up.  I asked for his expert opinion because of his expert
> experience with ClassLoader issues in building IoC containers.  I also
> asked because I wanted to make absolutely sure I was not doing
> that was going to come back to bite me in the arse.  I'm greatful that
> he is willing to give the time to make sure the right outcome is
> reached.
> Ok with that said I still respectfully disagree with him for numerous
> reasons outlined below.  Thanks to Stephen I think we can be sure that
> there will be no CL issues in container environments unless someone
> to use the packaged convenience Logging monitor classes within a
> container environment.

You seem to have missed my point.

I'm saying that you *are* making a mistake and that in the process you
are opening a security hole in your implementation.  Putting in a demo
class with logging does not require exposure of commons-logging (just
throw in a package protected console logger and you will eliminate the
api pollution and close a security hole at the same time). 

As to POJOs in APIs, that's another subject altogether.

Cheers, Steve,

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